HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List) (Read 4395 times)

PalisadesKid

HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« on: January 31, 2017, 09:42:43 AM »
Hearing has been scheduled for 02/02. Testimonies now being accepted.



SB280     Submit   Submit (?) 

Measure Title:   RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Report Title:   Firearms; Terrorist Watchlist; Terrorist Screening Database
Description:   Prohibits a person listed in the federal Terrorist Screening Database from owning, possessing, or controlling a firearm or ammunition. Allows for removal of the disqualification. Requires surrender or disposal of firearms and ammunition.
Companion:    HB1345
Package:   None
Current Referral:   PSM, JDL
Introducer(s):   KEITH-AGARAN, S. CHANG, ESPERO, GREEN, IHARA, NISHIHARA, K. RHOADS, Ruderman, Wakai

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=280&year=2017

Jl808

Re: HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 10:25:39 AM »
Thanks PalisadesKid.  There are 2 other bills that are scheduled for 2/2.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=26322.msg232285#msg232285
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PalisadesKid

Re: HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2017, 11:15:18 AM »
Thanks PalisadesKid.  There are 2 other bills that are scheduled for 2/2.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=26322.msg232285#msg232285

1036 is odd. Naturally its an automatic "oppose" under the premise of "duty to register", then it says "no penalty"......  :grrr:

punaperson

Re: HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 11:57:35 AM »
1036 is odd. Naturally its an automatic "oppose" under the premise of "duty to register", then it says "no penalty"......  :grrr:
I submitted testimony on all three. Here is my take on SB1036 (i'm just sayin'... :geekdanc:):

January 31, 2017

COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY, INTERGOVERNMENTAL, AND MILITARY AFFAIRS Chair, Vice Chair, and Members,

Please vote against SB1036.

Not only should this committee vote against SB1036, the committee should gut and amend this bill to end firearm registration in Hawaii.

In 2000 the then-current chief of police of the city and county of Honolulu testifed before a state legislative committee. His comments included answers to two questions, submitted to him prior to the committee hearing date by John Lott, who also testified before the same committee. The chief answered answered the first question “How many crimes have been solved using the firearms registration data?” by saying that to his knowledge NONE. He answered the second question “How many man hours a devoted annually to the firearms registration process?” by stating: 50,000 (fifty-thousand) hours (and that was only for the city and county of Honolulu, not including the other counties).

Does anyone have any problems with the more-than-obvious math regarding the cost/benefit analysis of the Hawaii firearms registration laws?

Please, let rationality, logic, and fiscal responsibility be the deciding criteria for whether or not such a useless scheme as firearms registration for Hawaii's law-abiding citizens should even exist at all. The obvious answer is NO! Please amend SB1036 to end firearm registration in Hawaii.

Thank you,
[punaperson]

punaperson

Re: HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 09:26:32 AM »
The official testimony is available this morning (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2017/Testimony/SB280_TESTIMONY_PSM_02-02-17_.PDF).

FOR: 1 (one) HPD

OPPOSED: 6 Me and the NRA (as "organizations") and 4 individuals

 :wtf:  Six people in the whole f***ing state took the time (maybe three minutes, or one minute if you just click "opposed" and don't leave an explanatory comment) to send an email opposing being of the insane "Terrorist Watch List" as sufficient grounds for being denied exercise of Second Amendment rights without due process?! No wonder we've got the sh*t laws we have. We deserve them. I''m surprised anyone even has any guns at all. >:(

PalisadesKid

Re: HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 09:29:39 AM »
The official testimony is available this morning (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2017/Testimony/SB280_TESTIMONY_PSM_02-02-17_.PDF).

FOR: 1 (one) HPD

OPPOSED: 6 Me and the NRA (as "organizations") and 4 individuals

 :wtf:  Six people in the whole f***ing state took the time (maybe three minutes, or one minute if you just click "opposed" and don't leave an explanatory comment) to send an email opposing being of the insane "Terrorist Watch List" as sufficient grounds for being denied exercise of Second Amendment rights without due process?! No wonder we've got the sh*t laws we have. We deserve them. I''m surprised anyone even has any guns at all. >:(

WTH?!?!?!? Where is mine??????? ??? ??? And yes, I submitted it PRIOR to the 24hour "cut off" ...

zippz

Re: HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 09:30:39 AM »
The official testimony is available this morning (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2017/Testimony/SB280_TESTIMONY_PSM_02-02-17_.PDF).

FOR: 1 (one) HPD

OPPOSED: 6 Me and the NRA (as "organizations") and 4 individuals

 :wtf:  Six people in the whole f***ing state took the time (maybe three minutes, or one minute if you just click "opposed" and don't leave an explanatory comment) to send an email opposing being of the insane "Terrorist Watch List" as sufficient grounds for being denied exercise of Second Amendment rights without due process?! No wonder we've got the sh*t laws we have. We deserve them. I''m surprised anyone even has any guns at all. >:(

I submitted in my testimony late, so hopefully they create a late batch prior to the hearing.  I think more people called in to their representatives and did the NRA ILA link thing, but I'm not sure if those are included in the testimony files.  I'll look into it when I go down to the capital today and talk to the ILA guy tomorrow.

zippz

Re: HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2017, 09:35:14 AM »
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If people call in testimony, I think they just tally the numbers as support/oppose.  I'll find out more.

Also this bill isn't as polarizing as a RAPBACK or gun bans.  There are probably a lot of gun owners that descretly support or don't care about this bill.  The excel sheet highlights it in yellow, not red or green, even though it's opposed by the HRA.  Not sure why it's not red.

The bills highlighted in YELLOW are the ones that have a hearing scheduled and need a call for action.  I have not yet received an official list of support or oppose from the HRA or NRA so a lot of the bills are not yet tagged as either and are just white color.
« Last Edit: February 02, 2017, 09:53:14 AM by Jl808 »

London808

Re: HEARING SCHEDULED 2/2: HB280 (Terror/No Fly List)
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2017, 09:57:03 AM »
i submitted late.....
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016