areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates (Read 3883 times)

MuffinMan

rklapp

Re: areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 08:30:20 AM »
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Take for example Los Angeles County, which had 526 murders in 2014 -- the most of any other county in the U.S. But parts of L.A. County, including Beverly Hills, Hawthorne and Van Nuys, had virtually no murders that year.
It's amazing how Cali has one of the strictest gun controls yet the murder rate is high. I guess as long as it keeps Hollywood safe, they politicians are okay with it.
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OldFaithful

Re: areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 09:09:46 AM »
Also keep in mind that all murder is not committed with firearms.  Cases of violent crime is a better example, but again keeping in mind all violent crime doesn't involve a firearm.  Other countries have a higher violent crime rate compared to the USA, but heavily restrict or do not allow firearms.  People will say that the USA has the the highest gun muders, crime etc. in the world and that other countries don't have a high gun crime rate.  Well again, other countries heavily restrict or dont allow guns so the gun crime rate would obviously be lower.  However these other countries still have a higher rate of violent crime, not just limited to firearms (assault, robbery, etc.)

punaperson

Re: areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 09:27:13 AM »
From the article:

The homicides also tend to be concentrated to relatively small pockets of those counties, the report said.

“It is stunning how concentrated murders are in the U.S.,” John Lott, president of the CPRC said to Fox News. “And we show that even within these counties, with all these high rates, murders are very concentrated.”

Indianapolis, Indiana had 135 murders but only four occurred outside of the 465 highway loop that encircles the downtown area.

Washington, D.C. has large swaths without a single recorded murder. The study found that murders were overwhelmingly limited to the eastern half of Washington, D.C.
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My comment:
These ultra-high crime areas are what are euphemistically labeled "urban centers", which is the poltically-correct designation for areas where one cannot state the obvious for fear of being labeled "racist", even though those numbers, by race, are easily available from the FBI.

changemyoil66

Re: areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 10:12:07 AM »
Hawaiis anti 2a wants proof that guns help, but when proof is shown, they dissmiss it.

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rklapp

Re: areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 12:36:47 PM »

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punaperson

Re: areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 01:48:39 PM »

What's your point? Whatever it is, why provide data 13 years old? We've been over this in another thread... your stats don't include "justifiable homicides", such as would accrue when a law-abiding citizen lawfully terminates a criminal in the course of a criminal act.

drck1000

Re: areas with the highest gun ownership rates have low murder rates
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 02:14:15 PM »
It's amazing how Cali has one of the strictest gun controls yet the murder rate is high. I guess as long as it keeps Hollywood safe, they politicians are okay with it.
Hold up. . . I thought you were being sarcastic there. . .