Murder Rates Per Capital (Read 2262 times)

Mr. Farknocker

Murder Rates Per Capital
« on: October 23, 2019, 04:43:49 PM »


I think the video would have been more effective if it discussed gun murder rates rather than just murder rates.

Sorry if this was already posted

eyeeatingfish

Re: Murder Rates Per Capital
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2019, 08:42:25 PM »
I would also like to find some statistics that look at the number of people shot, not just the murder rate because if medicine is saving more lives but the shooting rate isn't changing then it would affect an assessment of violence trends.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Murder Rates Per Capital
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2019, 09:51:56 PM »
I would also like to find some statistics that look at the number of people shot, not just the murder rate because if medicine is saving more lives but the shooting rate isn't changing then it would affect an assessment of violence trends.



https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/aggravated-assault

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The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines aggravated assault as an unlawful attack by one person upon another for the purpose of inflicting severe or aggravated bodily injury. The UCR Program further specifies that this type of assault is usually accompanied by the use of a weapon or by other means likely to produce death or great bodily harm. Attempted aggravated assault that involves the display of—or threat to use—a gun, knife, or other weapon is included in this crime category because serious personal injury would likely result if the assault were completed. When aggravated assault and larceny-theft occur together, the offense falls under the category of robbery.

Overview
In 2017, there were an estimated 810,825 aggravated assaults in the nation. The estimated number of aggravated assaults increased 1.0 percent when compared with the 2016 estimate but decreased 3.9 percent when compared with the 2008 estimate. (See Tables 1 and 1A.)
The estimated rate of aggravated assaults in 2017 was 248.9 per 100,000 inhabitants. From 2008 to 2017, the rate of aggravated assaults decreased 10.3 percent. (See Tables 1 and 1A.)
Of the aggravated assault offenses for which law enforcement provided expanded data in 2017, 26.3 percent were committed with firearms. Personal weapons, such as hands, fists, or feet, were used in 25.4 percent of aggravated assaults, and knives or cutting instruments were used in 17.2 percent. Other weapons were used in 31.1 percent of aggravated assaults. (Based on Table 19.)
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changemyoil66

Re: Murder Rates Per Capital
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2019, 09:46:45 AM »
I'm not a fan of stats like this.  Because it really doesn't matter unless that number is zero.  Because even if there was 1 murder, that person is affected by it.  Often low numbers are used as talking points by anti 2a groups/people.  "HI doesn't need CCW because we have low murder/rape rates per capita".  So I say, well if you were that 1 person raped, the low percentage/odds doesn't matter right?  Then they usually have no response after that, but "guns bad".

eyeeatingfish

Re: Murder Rates Per Capital
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2019, 10:24:41 PM »
Thank you flapp.

Unfortunately the numbers aren't great for the pro gun side. While firearm murders are only about 10,000 a year, assaults with firearms appear to be about 200,000 per year. (for year 2017)

I have to keep digging to try and see if the death vs injury rate of being shot has changed over the years though.I suspect is going to be difficult to get a real hard number but maybe I can get a ballpark to see how many shooting victims are saved by medical advancements.

changemyoil66

Re: Murder Rates Per Capital
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2019, 08:47:51 AM »
Thank you flapp.

Unfortunately the numbers aren't great for the pro gun side. While firearm murders are only about 10,000 a year, assaults with firearms appear to be about 200,000 per year. (for year 2017)

I have to keep digging to try and see if the death vs injury rate of being shot has changed over the years though.I suspect is going to be difficult to get a real hard number but maybe I can get a ballpark to see how many shooting victims are saved by medical advancements.

Need to dig deeper.  How many firearm assaults were done by people who are not allowed to posses them?  Like how they say, 40K people are killed with guns every year by anti 2a groups.  True, but 2/3 are from suicide.  Majority are crimes (illegally owned).