SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases (Read 4293 times)

Specter01

USMC 2000 - 2020

Mdotweber

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2020, 06:43:13 AM »
Sounds about right, justice delayed...

Probably trying to avoid getting the SCOTUS packed if a D takes the whitehouse.
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

RSN172

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2020, 07:13:20 AM »
Great time to be a criminal, where such things as right to carry and mag limits don't pertain to you.  Good job SCOTUS.  To me, other than Clarence Thomas, you cannot count on any of the others to uphold 2A rights.
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Brystont1

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2020, 07:49:44 AM »
Such fucken horse shit. This is literally the only reason I would’ve voted for trump. He better get ahead of this and start putting some fucken pressure on the Supreme Court to take up 2A laws.

Kuleana

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 08:30:34 AM »
This outcome should be no surprise.

Despite those who wish to deny it and demonize others that have come to terms with this reality, America is and has been an empire for quite some time now.  Its imperialistic foreign policy and slow, but consistent repeal of the laws and crucial rights that governed and protected the former American republic are all becoming a memory, as such American hallmarks are and will not be allowed in the empire.

Both the Democrats and Republicans have been infiltrated and are nothing but two cheeks of the same ass and are both working for the complete transformation of the US to an empire ruled by the ultrawealthy oligarchy.  The only difference between them is the Democrats are tasked with placating the minorities and poor, while the Republicans placate the ever dwindling middle class with false reassurances of protecting the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

This is nothing but a sham, as evidenced how the various social justice organizations get coopted by the vast amount of money and material by the ultrawealthy, their NGOs, and social media on the Democratic side, while the same ultrawealthy spend vast sums of money on misinformation/propaganda campaigns disseminated by the many so-called conservative ideologues in books and periodicals as well as on radio, TV, and the Internet to orchestrate the hate against the Democrats and the poor and minorities they say they serve, while maintaining eye and ear blinders on the middle class to keep them in-line in order for their elected officials to support illegal wars, color revolutions, foreign coups, or turn a blind eye and do nothing to reverse the erosion of the Bill of Rights in all branches of government.

Both the Republicans and Democrats that once represented the Great American republic are not indicative of what they are today and the transformation will only get worse once Trump leaves office.

aieahound

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 09:20:09 AM »

hvybarrels

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2020, 10:03:10 AM »
It makes sense seeing as how we are closer to armed revolution than we have been since Smedley Butler exposed the Business Plot. Now instead of industrialists going after FDR we have multinational corporations and tech billionaires going after Trump, sponsoring and encouraging riots across the country in order to discredit the president and disband police in favor of a privatized security force that they control a-la Robocop. That last thing they want in that scenario is a grassroots resistance movement by armed constitutionalists forcing the military to choose sides between snotty upper crusties and working class citizens struggling for survival.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

hvybarrels

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2020, 10:40:40 AM »
If our intelligence agencies stand down while Soros and Steyer openly organize and fund a color revolution inside our own borders, then the prospect of the oligarchs exerting undue influence over members of the Supreme Court is well in the realm of possibility.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/11/project-veritas-undercover-footage-proves-where-antifa-funding-comes-from-933237
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

dafrtknocker

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2020, 09:35:46 PM »
CNN reports what I was thinking, nobody can trust Roberts.

Roberts also sent enough signals during internal deliberations on firearms restrictions, sources said, to convince fellow conservatives he would not provide a critical fifth vote anytime soon to overturn gun control regulations. As a result, the justices in June denied several petitions regarding Second Amendment rights.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/politics/john-roberts-supreme-court-liberals-daca-second-amendment/index.html

eyeeatingfish

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2020, 09:55:57 PM »
Such fucken horse shit. This is literally the only reason I would’ve voted for trump. He better get ahead of this and start putting some fucken pressure on the Supreme Court to take up 2A laws.

Nothing he can do, the president has zero power over the supreme court beyond picking the justices.

The SCOTUS gets thousands of requests to hear cases every year and they have to pick less than 100 to decide upon. Even decent cases have the odds against them. There is a lot that goes into deciding whether the SCOTUS will take a case.

idespisecryptomining

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2020, 07:48:04 PM »
Nothing he can do, the president has zero power over the supreme court beyond picking the justices.

The SCOTUS gets thousands of requests to hear cases every year and they have to pick less than 100 to decide upon. Even decent cases have the odds against them. There is a lot that goes into deciding whether the SCOTUS will take a case.
100 to 150.
The thing that grinds my gears, is they denied to hear cases pertaining to ACTUAL constitutional rights, but decided to change the verbage of the civil rights act to remove genders, in favor of those who are confused.   That has NOTHING to do with the constitution in my eyes.  If you want to change your name, parts, preference, et al, do it. Its your right. Nothing says you cant do that. Life, liberty, and prosperity. You do you, boo boo.  Im not stopping you. I wont pay for it either. That's final.

Maybe im harsh, but their job is to interpret laws with the constitution to see if it sticks with rule of law, and stop infringements of citizens rights. Not sure their work has anything to do with their actual job anymore

eyeeatingfish

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2020, 08:20:52 PM »
100 to 150.
The thing that grinds my gears, is they denied to hear cases pertaining to ACTUAL constitutional rights, but decided to change the verbage of the civil rights act to remove genders, in favor of those who are confused.   That has NOTHING to do with the constitution in my eyes.  If you want to change your name, parts, preference, et al, do it. Its your right. Nothing says you cant do that. Life, liberty, and prosperity. You do you, boo boo.  Im not stopping you. I wont pay for it either. That's final.

Maybe im harsh, but their job is to interpret laws with the constitution to see if it sticks with rule of law, and stop infringements of citizens rights. Not sure their work has anything to do with their actual job anymore

There is a lot that goes into whether SCOTUS takes a case including all the past SCOTUS cases as well as the lower courts rulings on the cases. One thing that factors into it is whether the lower courts conflicted or not. So say the lower court ruled one way and the next level court ruled the same way, then SCOTUS is much less likely to take it up. However if two lower courts produce conflicting rulings then SCOTUS is more likely to pick up the case.

I picked up an interesting book written by one of the supreme court justices that went into the history as well as why they pick certain cases. I can't recall all of it off the top of my head but it is much more complex that I think most know. I don't know about these specific 10 cases however I suspect there are probably good reasons why they didn't choose to hear at least some of them. I would like some more pro gun rights rulings too but I don't want to judge without knowing the specifics of the cases and why they didn't take them.

RSN172

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2020, 08:45:51 AM »
The reason SCOTUS did not take any 2A cases was because the conservatives could not count on Roberts to vote with them.  If he sided with the liberals, that would have destroyed what few 2A rights we have left.
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rpoL98

Re: SCOTUS Denies all 10 2A cases
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2020, 02:28:54 PM »
The reason SCOTUS did not take any 2A cases was because the conservatives could not count on Roberts to vote with them.  If he sided with the liberals, that would have destroyed what few 2A rights we have left.
that being the case, it would not be a good time for the CA magazine capacity limit to go to SCOTUS for the same reasons.