SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto (Read 1906 times)

rpoL98

SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« on: May 08, 2022, 01:25:15 PM »
please demand that Gov Ige veto the ill-advised bail reform bill sitting at his desk.  We don't need to follow the failed examples of San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York and turn Hawaii into a true criminals paradise.  These libtard lawmakers seem to think that the poor criminal is the victim.  Hawaii's catch-&-release justice system is already bad enough, even without a "get-out-of-jail-free" card.  Criminals gonna get a free pass on property theft, shoplifing, identity theft, car break-ins, burglary, fraudulent credit card use, etc.   must be a lot of George Soros money floating around.   JMHO   :wacko:

SB1567 "criminal pre-trial reform"

https://governor.hawaii.gov/contact-us/comments-on-legislation/  limited to 250 characters, so be succinct.

https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/stolen-stuff-hawaii-launches-petition-urging-gov-ige-to-veto-the-bail-reform-bill/article_3dd42fe4-cc47-11ec-bf56-0b08234bece2.html

https://www.kitv.com/social-media-site-launches-petition-to-veto-bail-bill/video_ec65e810-c889-5689-b426-d4bf36c86a0b.html

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/05/critics-call-bail-reform-measure-approved-by-lawmakers-get-out-jail-free-card/

oldfart

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2022, 03:28:35 PM »
There is a petition with over 5000 signatures right now.
https://www.change.org/p/governor-ige-please-veto-hb1567

What, Me Worry?

changemyoil66

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2022, 12:39:14 PM »
Kitchens from SSH had a Zoom with SHOPO about this bill. Mayor Rick is asking Ige to veto.

oldfart

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2022, 01:27:29 PM »
6400 signatures now

Dem guys no catch da hint
What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2022, 10:07:11 AM »
If Ige doesn't veto this BS nonsense then it is true what everyone knew all along.

Gov. Leaders in Hawaii do not have the interests of the people at heart.  And Hawaii is 99.9% Democrats.  What does this tell you.

Hawaii Leaders just want your vote.  Not your f**kn input.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

RSN172

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2022, 10:39:48 AM »
I find it interesting that our highest ranked public official has a last name that means lowest rank in Japanese. Needless to say, it is not a popular name in Japan and is in fact uncommon.  I think our hardly do anything Governor is just going to let it pass without his signature because he is usually afraid to take a firm stand on controversial matters.
Happily living in Puna

QUIETShooter

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2022, 10:05:40 PM »
Also probably because he's a lame duck governor.  On his way out.  Just collecting the paychecks.

To me he's not a lame duck.  Just lame.  From the very beginning of his term(s).
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2022, 06:28:31 AM »
There is a petition with over 5000 signatures right now.
https://www.change.org/p/governor-ige-please-veto-hb1567
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Over 7900 signatures today.
...
Proponents claim that it will reduce crime.
What, Me Worry?

aletheuo137

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2022, 07:40:17 AM »
Also probably because he's a lame duck governor.  On his way out.  Just collecting the paychecks.

To me he's not a lame duck.  Just lame.  From the very beginning of his term(s).
An insult to ducks everywhere!

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ren

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2022, 07:47:36 AM »
Appears that he will sign or let it become law.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/18/opposition-grows-over-bail-reform-bill-advocates-say-many-fears-are-unfounded/

Gov. David Ige said he’s still considering the bill.

“We want to look at the reform passed a couple years ago and see the progress made,” said Ige. “Then just make an evaluation of what is contained in this new proposal.”


Why does someone like him care anyways.
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QUIETShooter

Re: SB1567: bail reform >> tell Ige to veto
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2022, 01:48:59 PM »
Appears that he will sign or let it become law.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/18/opposition-grows-over-bail-reform-bill-advocates-say-many-fears-are-unfounded/

Gov. David Ige said he’s still considering the bill.

“We want to look at the reform passed a couple years ago and see the progress made,” said Ige. “Then just make an evaluation of what is contained in this new proposal.”


Why does someone like him care anyways.

That person in the article called Kat Brady, who is supposed to be community coordinator on prisons or something like that, said in the article that crime actually goes down when states adopt similar bail reform.  He mentioned New Jersey.  Really?

I wish people like this would not only make their statement but explain how and why.  How exactly does crime go down about the same rate as people released on no bail.  In the New Jersey case it was mentioned 20%.

How can that happen.  And it better not be because of the poor unable to post bail.  In my opinion that's Bullcr*p.  They'll do it again.  And again. 

Meanwhile, Business owners and property owners have to deal with repairs, higher insurance, and the trauma and stress that comes with the crimes committed, while their customers bear the brunt of these crimes with higher prices to offset the lost property.

People like Ige care more for the criminals than the taxpayer public who pay his salary and his loyal constituents who were stupid enough to put him in office in the first place.

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.