The Judge in the New York case gave little weight to historical evidence and justification provided by the defense based on territories prior to statehood. Anything HPD, CC's, Mayors, Legislators, or Governor provides as historic context in Hawaii to limit CCW during the Hawaiian Kingdom, Provisional Government, and Territorial eras, is a losing argument. Hawaii better tread lightly because they will not like the outcome if they push the issue and it goes back to the Supreme Ct. We will see how NYs emergency appeal goes. Either way it will probably go En banc. We need another circuit conflict.