you guys sound like a bunch of liberals.  They shouldn't charge so much,  we should spread the wealth around a little.    If you don't like the prices someone is selling something for, don't buy it.    If someone else is willing to pay the price, good for them.

It's nobody's business what the damn invoice is.

People who feel this way shouldn't buy gas for their cars.

Gas is marked up over 100% when it's cheap, 200% or more when the prices are high.

I wish people would quit anonymously complaining about the gun stores online.

If you have a problem, go and ask for the owner and tell him face to face "I don't like the way you do business and I refuse to shop at your store"

Let him see who is talking crap about him.

+2

What are people doing with the 30 round Pmags besides hoarding them? LOL

 Koko head only allows 5 rounds in the mag and 30 is illegal unless pinned to 10.

It's nobody's business what the damn invoice is.

People who feel this way shouldn't buy gas for their cars.

Gas is marked up over 100% when it's cheap, 200% or more when the prices are high.

I wish people would quit anonymously complaining about the gun stores online.

If you have a problem, go and ask for the owner and tell him face to face "I don't like the way you do business and I refuse to shop at your store"

Let him see who is talking crap about him.

What he said!! 

I heard Anthony was pre-selling P-Mags for $200 a pop a week or so ago.

For a 10-pack?

It's nobody's business what the damn invoice is.

People who feel this way shouldn't buy gas for their cars.

Gas is marked up over 100% when it's cheap, 200% or more when the prices are high.

I wish people would quit anonymously complaining about the gun stores online.

If you have a problem, go and ask for the owner and tell him face to face "I don't like the way you do business and I refuse to shop at your store"

Let him see who is talking crap about him.

I agree with this sentiment, stripping the profit out of a business = no business. However, I believe your reference to gasoline prices is misinformed. If you've ever looked at the financial statements of a gas station you'll see that there's pretty much no profit on selling gas. Fees, taxes, regulations on prices, etc. make up the prices. The real profit from a gas station comes from the convenience store at the gas station. Even the smallest gas stations have a tiny booth with a clerk sitting in there surround by drinks, snacks, cigarettes, toiletries, gum, etc. The gas selling part only exists to create the foot traffic for the convenience store.

A better way to illustrate your point would be to give details on the pricing scheme to almost any store. I used to work at Longs Drugs, I bought a hair dryer for my mom because she needed a new one; price tag $25, price I paid $6. The Longs Drugs employee discount is cost +5%, so how do you like that markup? On the other hand, stuff on sale at Longs is cheaper than employee pricing which means their profit on sale items comes purely from volume. The reason for the markup difference is hair dryer sales are probably really slow by comparison, I mean how often do you need a new hair dryer? But both are priced to fit the revenue needs of the store in order to continue operations. Of course that's just a quick example and there are more economic factors to consider but that would be going off point.

it seems everyone forgets supply and demand,  the more the demand -  the higher the prices rise until equilibrium is reach.   as demand drops the lower the price goes until equilibrium.   econ 101.     right now the gun shops aren't following that, they are maintaining the prices no matter the supply so it become a first come first served business. 

If you look at my original post I was praising KGS.  I understand supply and demand just fine.  I don't see Brownells, Midway, etc. raising their prices.  KGS was always slightly over MSRP.

In the past I have talked shit to Carter's face.  He talks alot of shit too. 

My family used to own a few gas stations.  Taxes is what kills the final price of gas.  If I remember correctly when we closed gas taxes were 52 cents per gal state, a nickel per gal city, and sales tax on top of that.  We were lucky if we made 3-5 cents per gal. 

What are people doing with the 30 round Pmags besides hoarding them? LOL

 Koko head only allows 5 rounds in the mag and 30 is illegal unless pinned to 10.

honolulu firearms lets you load up and some people do shoot there.

why would you pay for a 10 or 5 round mag when a 30 round mag is the same price?  that's my question.

honolulu firearms lets you load up and some people do shoot there.

why would you pay for a 10 or 5 round mag when a 30 round mag is the same price?  that's my question.

That's true, and why are 10 and 20 round mags more expensive than 30 round mags?

That's true, and why are 10 and 20 round mags more expensive than 30 round mags?

probably because 30 is the standard and they have to take off production to make smaller capacities special instead of running one high efficiency factory line on 30's.

What are people doing with the 30 round Pmags besides hoarding them? LOL

 Koko head only allows 5 rounds in the mag and 30 is illegal unless pinned to 10.

Saving for SHTF scenario, it looks better, use at a different range, HDF Fun Shoots and other club events? (I've never been to one, thus the question mark). The 10 limit only applies to handguns.

why would you pay for a 10 or 5 round mag when a 30 round mag is the same price?  that's my question.

Smaller mag more convenient for bench shooting?

What are people doing with the 30 round Pmags besides hoarding them? LOL

 Koko head only allows 5 rounds in the mag and 30 is illegal unless pinned to 10.

I dont have pinned 30rd pmags and i have never had any issue ..... at koko head.....

You also have to take into account the a$$holes that are either panic buying are planning to charge more than the store owners who have overhead and employees. OGC and xring have fair prices. Remember they can turn around and sell there shipments elsewhere and make more profit. I bought two 3rd gen p mags $28. Each. I got them because I wanted  the dot matrix so I could number the mags, my older mags I just use good old punch tape. I only bought two  as to see quality, I saw no need to buy there entire stock. It's not the store that's screwing us, it's other shooters. Look at the ammo prices and scarceness, greedy, panicked, selfish gun owners the type that give the whole sport and industries a bad name.

If anyone is offended or wants to say something to my face  my address is 1600 Pennsylvania ave, look for the big white house. Punks!

and as for OGC... if you dont like the price dont buy ...... thats capitalism "you vote with your pocket books'"  if you prefer socialism or communism be my guess there are many countries out there ( and there are still a few that  allow you to have the privilege of possess a firearm if you are a citizen..... Go for it.......  I am one to those individuals that sold a lot of my magazines in December/January.... I'm a senior in college student with a newborn and a crappy $10 an hour part time job..... I sold my extra pmags with the Belief that there is a very good chance that I will not be able to replace them.... I stocked up when I had money now I dont so I sold them at market price..... so dont down people that are selling their mags or ammo at what ever price .... You dont know their situation....  (BTW I didnt buy any pmags since the panic buying happend also i didn't hoard buy ammo or pmag that kinda sucks but it up to the stores to enforce buying limits.... free country... for now)

True, but I'll believe it when I see their invoice.  A honest owner would not bring in products at a inflated price just because he knows people are panicking and it'll sell.  If it is in fact the distributor, I'd find another because then the distributor is dishonest.  Maybe Magpul is lying too but they said repeatedly they have not raised their prices due to recent events.

$16 and $18.  X-ring and OGC advertising $28 and $29.

No one is forcing you to walk through any shops door. If you do not like their prices please start looking for another vendor.

As for their "invoices", or the cost at which the store acquires their products through distribution or vendors, it is no one's business but theirs. You might liken it to someone asking to see how much you have in the bank, or how much you payed in taxes each year.

For a 10-pack?
I agree with this sentiment, stripping the profit out of a business = no business. However, I believe your reference to gasoline prices is misinformed. If you've ever looked at the financial statements of a gas station you'll see that there's pretty much no profit on selling gas. Fees, taxes, regulations on prices, etc. make up the prices. The real profit from a gas station comes from the convenience store at the gas station. Even the smallest gas stations have a tiny booth with a clerk sitting in there surround by drinks, snacks, cigarettes, toiletries, gum, etc. The gas selling part only exists to create the foot traffic for the convenience store.

A better way to illustrate your point would be to give details on the pricing scheme to almost any store. I used to work at Longs Drugs, I bought a hair dryer for my mom because she needed a new one; price tag $25, price I paid $6. The Longs Drugs employee discount is cost +5%, so how do you like that markup? On the other hand, stuff on sale at Longs is cheaper than employee pricing which means their profit on sale items comes purely from volume. The reason for the markup difference is hair dryer sales are probably really slow by comparison, I mean how often do you need a new hair dryer? But both are priced to fit the revenue needs of the store in order to continue operations. Of course that's just a quick example and there are more economic factors to consider but that would be going off point.

Yeah longs and the discount they had.  Cost+10% when i was there.  Was still cheap though.  I used to walk around with the price gun and print out reports, the one that shows you cost and then retail price.  Pretty interesting, and the boss always used to get mad at me for doing that.  Now they changed the discount, to many people abusing it.  Im not sure what CVS policy is.


Another thing that gets me is when they tell you "its because the cost of shipping".  Thats total bs.  The company pays for the entire container.  if you were to evenly divide the price among all the products in the container it would still be cheaper.  lame excuse.  And im getting this from the perspective of someone that used to work at a pet store.

You get mags whereever you can. Last time we sold them at 35. We bought them from someone at a crazy high price but at least they had a lot them. And they all sold within a day. Last shipment was from our normal distributor.  So normal price.   

Never understood the demand for PMAGs. I have them but I prefer GI aluminum ones. I had FTF with PMAG 20s loaded up with Mk 262. Right now supply seems to be catching up so prices should be coming down. Buy low and sell high is always the best advice to heed. The next shortage is ammo. All those PMAGs are worthless without ammo in them!