wet tumbled brass (Read 10445 times)

Dolomite

wet tumbled brass
« on: September 20, 2013, 08:01:04 PM »
is the difference in color due to lemi shine?

Hi state

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 08:09:54 PM »
The left case looks more polished but the color doesn't look different bet if u leave the polished one out for a while it will start to look like the other case

Dolomite

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 09:28:16 PM »
yup it tarnishes fast if not in air sealed container.... trying to figure out how to keep that polished look without dry tumbling after the wet tumble..

Heavies

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 03:59:39 AM »
The wet tumble gets the brass clean, so clean that it'll tarnish quick.  That is the nature of brass, it tarnishes.  Be careful of what you put on it, many products that clean brass contain ammonia or other chemicals that will weaken it.  Not good for reloading... 

oldfart

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 05:18:57 AM »
The wet tumble gets the brass clean, so clean that it'll tarnish quick.  That is the nature of brass, it tarnishes.  Be careful of what you put on it, many products that clean brass contain ammonia or other chemicals that will weaken it.  Not good for reloading...
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Note: Ammonia is in Brasso. Not recommended as an additive for dry tumbling.
Personally, I prefer dry tumble. When I do it, I add a little charcoal lighter fluid as a solvent. I believe it is a very light coal oil. Some commercial tumbling grits used kerosene for the same effect. I used to use kerosene before but charcoal fluid is just as good and everybody has some.
I believe that there is a very, very light oil or grease  residue on my brass which helps to keep the brass from tarnishing too quickly.
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Dolomite

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 10:24:17 AM »
is the brass still good if the cases came out pink?

« Last Edit: September 21, 2013, 10:37:04 AM by Dolomite »

oldfart

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 05:05:16 AM »
is the brass still good if the cases came out pink?
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The cases look fine. I think your solution is mildly acidic which reacts to the tarnish and turns pink.

I had obtained some buckets of fired military brass that had been poorly stored. Many shells were blackened with tarnish.
I have used several different chemicals to try to get rid of the black tarnish:

ZUD cleanser which contains oxalic acid. Works pretty good if you can find it.
Vinegar which is acetic acid
Lemon juice which is citric acid
Commercial bathroom cleaner which contained phosphoric acid.

In all cases, the tarnish does turn a pinkish color. But that pinkish color polishes out nicely in a dry tumbler.
Really black tarnish is virtually impossible to get rid of.
Shells that have really black tarnish spots that will not come off are physically weak and will develop a crack when reloaded and fired.
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Kingkeoni

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 08:23:19 AM »
is the brass still good if the cases came out pink?

Are you crazy?

Not only are they good but now they're limited edition and more valuable.

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Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 12:34:06 PM »
^^^^^^ :geekdanc: 

ren

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2013, 05:16:31 PM »
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The cases look fine. I think your solution is mildly acidic which reacts to the tarnish and turns pink.

I had obtained some buckets of fired military brass that had been poorly stored. Many shells were blackened with tarnish.
I have used several different chemicals to try to get rid of the black tarnish:

ZUD cleanser which contains oxalic acid. Works pretty good if you can find it.
Vinegar which is acetic acid
Lemon juice which is citric acid
Commercial bathroom cleaner which contained phosphoric acid.

In all cases, the tarnish does turn a pinkish color. But that pinkish color polishes out nicely in a dry tumbler.
Really black tarnish is virtually impossible to get rid of.
Shells that have really black tarnish spots that will not come off are physically weak and will develop a crack when reloaded and fired.
I can concur as I had the same symptoms. Just lower the amount of Lemishine.
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Dolomite

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2013, 07:20:07 PM »
thanks!!! 

Heavies

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2013, 07:28:32 PM »
I hardly use any lemishine in mine.

Dolomite

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2013, 07:29:40 PM »
I've been reading that some guys use hot water and some use cold water when tumbling. Anyone have results using either?

Heavies

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2013, 07:59:08 PM »
I've been reading that some guys use hot water and some use cold water when tumbling. Anyone have results using either?

I use hot tap water, dish soap, and just a sprinkle of lemishine. Two hours or so,  then rinse with hot tap water again.  Roll dry the lot on a terrycloth towel.  Then straight on the annealing machine to complete the dry and knock that step off the list.  Comes out nice.

Never tried with cold water.  I think the hot water gets a faster result tho.

This is with rifle brass.  My pistol brass just goes in the vibratory tumbler.

Dolomite

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2013, 08:02:10 PM »
Thanks Heavies....

CoburnRacing

Re: wet tumbled brass
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2013, 07:38:24 AM »
I just use water from the garden home to tumble my brass. Plus dawn dish soap and a pinch of lemi shine. Never had a pink batch yet.