Kuleana,

With all due respect I don't think your argument holds water. Let me explain. Back in the 60's being a Liberal meant that the Democrats and Republicans had a lot in common and worked together to get things done. There were a lot more issues in common and resolutions between the two parties. Take for instance the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Even though JFK and Johnson called for the act to be passed, more Republicans voted for it both in the house and senate (On a percentage basis) than did Democrats. Which means there were many more Democrats against it than there were Republicans. It was actually the Republicans that wrote the original House bill as requested by JFK even though the Senate bill was the one that was eventually passed by an overwhelming Republican vote. Being a Liberal back then was not a bad thing. Not like it is today. I don't agree with Hound on this point. The Democrats have moved far to left and are moving even farther rapidly. The divide between the two parties is much wider than it was in the 60's. I am not saying the Republicans have not moved to the right, either. But to think that being a Democrat in the 60's is any where near the same as it is today is a fallacy. And to think that the Civil Rights Movement was a product of Liberalism is also a fallacy based on the facts of who was for it as compared to who was against it.

I agree with your analysis that both the left and right have drifted farther to the extremes and I do very much appreciate the education in regards to the specifics as to how the Civil Rights Legislation in the 1960's were passed in Congress.  The point that I wanted to be emphasized in regards to the Civil Rights Movement in the 60's was that the movement itself was primarily driven by the liberals of society (i.e., MLK, Malcom X, etc.).  Although as you pointed out that it was the Republicans more than the Democrats who pushed for Civil Rights Legislation in Congress, it is quite doubtful that there were many Republicans marching for civil liberties with Martin Luther King on the street.  Nevertheless, it is great knowing that opposing sides within Congress at that time could compromise for the greater good.


Now, let's talk about the original Civil Rights Act of 1875 that was written by and overwhelmingly passed by Republicans as hard as the Democrats tried to stop it. Unfortunately, it was shot down by the Supreme Court in 1883. If it had not been struck down there would not have been a need for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. JMHO 

I never knew about this till you brought it to my attention and I am very grateful that you pointed it out.


Kuleana

I believe MLK was actually Republican.  As to Republican minded people marching I don't know. 

Some argue the Repub & Democrat made some kind of ideological switch these days, I don't believe is the case.  Don't forget Democrats started the KKK, the only switch that was made is they got smart, sly, and devious in their methods to sham people into thinking they are all about protecting them and their rights.  Look at what the Democrats have accomplish while in power these last years....  nothing to better the minorities nor the whole of the US way of life in general, if anything they have turned back progress. 

Sickening yet ingenious all at the same time. IMO

We've seen a lot of Breitbart articles posted in numerous threads.
I don't trust Breitbart as much as I don't trust any extreme leaning publication.

http://www.wired.com/2010/03/ff_andrew_brietbart/

The civil rights movement was definitely liberal in my opinion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

What's your folks definition of Liberal ?
You can be a Liberal Republican or a Conservative Democrat.

Censorship is not Liberal.
And the last thing college should be about is censorship.

Side note:
The Breitbart article cited above does illustrate one thing to me.
Where were the Conservative celebrations of the 50th anniversary. Of MLK's speech where they invited Conservative speakers ?
They didn't need to crash Liberal parties. They could have thrown a bunch of their own.

Brings me back to Conservative college students are not as activist as Liberal (Leftist) ( Liberal as used in our discussion) ones.
Is it because they get locked in boxes and bullied/pushed out of the way like in the 2 videos ?
Are there no longer any Conservative college students ?
Is that the parents fault ?
I don't know, just throwing questions out there.

P.S. Loved that South Park video Rock.

Well said Inspector. 

What the heck is a Free Speech Zone ?

The Constitution is in jeopardy.

These guys are tarnishing the name of Liberal.

Liberals used to be Liberal with Rights and the Constitution and the Principles of the Declaration.
That's why colleges were considered to be Liberal. They embraced the right to free speech, assembly and equality.

We've seen a lot of Breitbart articles posted in numerous threads.
I don't trust Breitbart as much as I don't trust any extreme leaning publication.

http://www.wired.com/2010/03/ff_andrew_brietbart/

The civil rights movement was definitely liberal in my opinion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

What's your folks definition of Liberal ?
You can be a Liberal Republican or a Conservative Democrat.

Censorship is not Liberal.
And the last thing college should be about is censorship.

Side note:
The Breitbart article cited above does illustrate one thing to me.
Where were the Conservative celebrations of the 50th anniversary. Of MLK's speech where they invited Conservative speakers ?
They didn't need to crash Liberal parties. They could have thrown a bunch of their own.

Brings me back to Conservative college students are not as activist as Liberal (Leftist) ( Liberal as used in our discussion) ones.
Is it because they get locked in boxes and bullied/pushed out of the way like in the 2 videos ?
(Figuratively speaking in the first one and literally in the second)
Are there no longer any Conservative college students ?
If not. Is that the parents fault ?
I don't know, just throwing questions out there.

P.S. Loved that South Park video Rock.

I think you are right, the words seem to often be used in ways they don't inherently mean. For example in a different country with a different political climate the words liberal and conservative might not apply they way we think of them now. For example a liberal interpretation of the US constitution could mean something different from a liberal interpretation of another countries constitution. Being conservative is also relevant to what ideals one is being conservative about.