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ren

Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« on: October 03, 2019, 07:11:57 PM »
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mrgaf

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2019, 08:08:58 PM »
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RSN172

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2019, 02:52:54 PM »
I never had AC when I was going to school and still don't.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2019, 04:26:08 PM »
It's not an either-or proposition.

#1 solution to carbon emissions is nuclear reactors. 

Do that, and we'll be able to afford to run the AC non-stop even if the wind isn't blowing or the sun isn't shining.

There are 3 main solutions to energy when it comes to emissions:

1.  Conservation (use less)
2.  Efficiency (measures that consume less fuel or produce more output with the same amount of fuel input)
3.  Alternative forms of energy (nuclear, solar, wind, hydro, etc.)

Saying we can't have something because "climate change" shows how the entire issue is about controlling people and the economy -- not so much about solving anything real.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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robtmc

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2019, 05:56:53 PM »
Quote from: mrgaf on October 04, 2019, 08:08:58 PM
Future nut case!
What is wrong with her eye (whoever that is)??

Bad eye?  Looks constipated................
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ren

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2019, 06:01:59 PM »
Quote from: robtmc on October 05, 2019, 05:56:53 PM
What is wrong with her eye (whoever that is)??

Bad eye?  Looks constipated................

How dare you! :crazy:
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RSN172

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2019, 06:53:56 PM »
She ugly.  She should marry David Hoog. 
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robtmc

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2019, 07:26:00 PM »
Quote from: RSN172 on October 05, 2019, 06:53:56 PM
She ugly.  She should marry David Hoog.
Dunno who it is, assuming female.  But I seriously doubt Hog is interested in females.
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Platinum808

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2019, 08:05:24 PM »
Why does no one talk about the atmospheric Nuclear testing they use to do about the same time the ice started to melt then they put a stop to it very fast and went to under ground testing my thought a very HOT explosion with radioactive n radiation that is floating in the  atmosphere is more harmful to the earth then all the cars combined! Why cant people go to test site because it’s radioactive! But when we detonate them in the sky they just blow away like our problems
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2019, 08:56:17 PM »
Quote from: Platinum808 on October 05, 2019, 08:05:24 PM
Why does no one talk about the atmospheric Nuclear testing they use to do about the same time the ice started to melt then they put a stop to it very fast and went to under ground testing my thought a very HOT explosion with radioactive n radiation that is floating in the  atmosphere is more harmful to the earth then all the cars combined! Why cant people go to test site because it’s radioactive! But when we detonate them in the sky they just blow away like our problems

In short, because air bursts that don't detonate "touching" the Earth's surface produce almost no fallout.  Most of what is created contains the less harmful radioactive material.  Whereas the underground detonation is, well, pretty much nothing BUT touching the Earth.

Fallout is the dirt and other particles that rise up in the nuclear fire.  It then falls to the Earth (hence the name "Fall Out") carrying with it whatever radiation it came into contact with.  If it happens too far above the surface to pick up that dirt and particles, then the fallout is extremely low.

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There are two main considerations for the location of an explosion: height and surface composition. A nuclear weapon
detonated in the air, called an air burst, produces less fallout than a comparable explosion near the ground. A nuclear
explosion in which the fireball touches the ground pulls soil and other materials into the cloud and neutron activates it
before it falls back to the ground. An air burst produces a relatively small amount of the highly radioactive heavy metal
components of the device itself.
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For subsurface land bursts, the surge is made up of small solid particles, but it still behaves like a fluid. A soil earth medium
favors base surge formation in an underground burst. Although the base surge typically contains only about 10% of the
 total bomb debris in a subsurface burst, it can create larger radiation doses than fallout near the detonation, because it
arrives sooner than fallout, before much radioactive decay has occurred.

That should help clear up the differences between the two.   :geekdanc:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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changemyoil66

Re: Students want A/C but what about climate change?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2019, 11:36:17 AM »
They should take a pole on how many believe in climate change, then ask how many are willing to give up AC in their class, home, movies, etc...Then have a huge sign that say's "you just got burned".
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