NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law (Read 3729 times)

Mr. Farknocker

NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« on: March 09, 2018, 06:22:06 PM »
Looks like NRA has filed suit challenging the constitutionality of Florida's new gun law restricting sales of firearms to anyone under 21 years of age.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/09/nra-files-lawsuit-saying-florida-gun-bill-approved-by-gov-scott-violates-2nd-amendment.html

mrgaf

Re: NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 07:41:22 PM »
Ok then the following has to change as well.....
1. Cannot serve in the military or National Guard until they are 21
2. Cannot vote in any elections until they are 21
3. Cannot Join any fed, state county or city PD until they are 21
4. Cannot drive until they are 21 to include boats and planes
In other words you can’t do shit until you are 21... :thumbsup:
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punaperson

Re: NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2018, 07:43:23 AM »
Ok then the following has to change as well.....
1. Cannot serve in the military or National Guard until they are 21
2. Cannot vote in any elections until they are 21
3. Cannot Join any fed, state county or city PD until they are 21
4. Cannot drive until they are 21 to include boats and planes
In other words you can’t do shit until you are 21... :thumbsup:
I'd add get married nor enter into any legal contracts (buy a house/car, get a credit card, etc.).

London808

Re: NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2018, 08:53:40 AM »
I see one of 2 outcomes at the end of this.

1 : Age limits are ruled unconditional and their is no age limit

2 : The age limit is lowered to 17 to be in compliance with mai lotus laws and the general concept of the militia overall
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

zippz

Re: NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2018, 10:01:12 AM »
A glaring flaw I noticed with the 18 and 21 age differences comes down to criminal actions.  If you are not responsible enough to own a firearm (or even drinking) until age 21, does that mean you should be treated like a juvenile for punishment?  So the Florida shooter should be tried in family court as a juvenile and released from prison at age 21?

hvybarrels

Re: NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2018, 10:52:28 AM »
A seven year old can cook dinner, wash his clothes, call a cab, and figure out where the adults are if he comes home and nobody is there. Our society keeps children in an crippled emotional state, training them to be helpless, to the point where a lot of people go through the greater part of their lives acting like spoiled babies. It makes the population much easier to control.
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punaperson

Re: NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2018, 12:54:25 PM »
In addition to the various minimum age requirement for firearm possession/purchase, military conscription/enlistment, etc. discussed above, consider the following:

Age of candidacy
Age of consent
Age of criminal responsibility
Legal drinking age
Legal smoking age
Legal age for cannabis use
Marriageable age
Voting age
(among others)

It's lawmakers who decide to legislate all the "age" distinctions and requisites. Who better to objectively evaluate evidence and create a sound public policy not based on any kind of bias or subjectivity (or political pandering)? You know, like with "multiburst trigger activators". True, they may rely to some degree on "experts" who pull numbers out of their ass based upon advocacy "research" and heavily leftist academia with its rewards for "discovering" the "truth" known to the lefties all along. The fact that they change their mind every decade or two and move the requisite ages up and down all over world is of no concern. Trust them. They know what they are doing.

Side note:

The age of consent in Hawaii is 16. There is however a close-in-age exemption, which allows those aged 14 and 15 to consent to sex with those less than five years older.

Previously the age of consent was 14, the lowest in the United States. Avery Chumbley, a member of the Hawaiian Senate, had made efforts to raise the age of consent. The age of consent was changed to 16 by Act 1, House Bill 236, passed by the Legislature of Hawaii in 2001.

That means that if someone was legally having consensual sex with a 14-year-old at the very moment the new law went into effect that person immediately became a felon for doing the same thing they were doing legally the literal moment before (assuming that person was more than five years older than the 14 year old). How did the 14-year-old actually, in reality, change at that moment to warrant felonious activity? Now, be sure to turn in or destroy all those "devices" that "simulate automatic gunfire".  :wtf:

 :stopjack:

punaperson

Re: NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2018, 01:05:47 PM »
So much for the NRA influence at the White House... if it's not fake news on Fox...I guess we'll find out shortly as this is stated to be announced this evening, which it already is there...

Trump WH expected to support raising minimum age to buy long guns

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/11/trump-wh-expected-to-support-raising-minimum-age-to-buy-long-guns.html

President Trump is set to announce recommendations Sunday night on stopping school shootings that will include calls to increase the minimum age for buying long guns to 21, Fox News has learned.

Trump also is expected to support allowing school faculty and staff to be trained to carry and use a weapon, and banning bump stocks -- attachments that essentially enable long-barreled guns to fire bullets at a quicker rate.

punaperson

Re: NRA files suit challenging new Florida gun control law
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2018, 06:25:52 PM »
Trump backed off on the 21 age minimum for long gun purchase, for the time being. Have to wonder if maybe he never meant it to begin with. I'm guessing he got a LOT of feedback against it.

White House backs off call to raise minimum age to buy long guns

The White House announced a series of recommendations Sunday night meant to stop school shootings, including a full audit and review of the FBI tip line after warnings about a student who killed 17 people at a Florida high school last month were not acted upon.

The administration did not call for immediately increasing the minimum age for buying long guns to 21, as President Trump had previously advocated. However, it did announce that Education Secretary Betsy DeVos would chair a federal commission on school safety to study the proposal.

As part of that plan, the White House directed the Justice Department to help states partner with local law enforcement to provide "rigorous firearms training to specifically qualified volunteer school personnel," said Andrew Bremberg, director of the president's Domestic Policy Council.

The administration also reaffirmed Trump's support for a congressional measure, known as Fix NICS, that helps local officials improve efforts to enter data into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and the congressional STOP School Violence Act to improve school security and provide some funding for such efforts.

Trump is also calling on states to pass temporary, court-issued Risk Protection Orders, which allow law enforcement to confiscate guns from individuals who pose risks to themselves and others, and temporarily prevent them from buying firearms. The president is also calling for better coordination between mental health care, school officials and law enforcement.

And, the Justice Department has been moving forward with the push to ban bump stocks.