The People's Republic of Hawaii compared to the United States of America (Read 1569 times)

punaperson

Here's what's going on in one state where the Constitution is actually legally recognized (even that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" part). Let's compare what's upcoming in South Dakota with the likely compendium of bills set to be unveiled here in the PRH, which I can almost guarantee, with the possible exception of a slight change in the total ban on electric guns (due to (likely) successful litigation), will be 100% in the opposite direction, i.e. further infringing what's left of our rights here.

South Dakotans may soon be able to carry concealed handguns without a permit

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/south-dakotans-may-soon-be-able-to-carry-concealed-handguns-without-a-permit

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. – After years of unsuccessful attempts, supporters of legislation that would allow people to carry concealed handguns without a permit in South Dakota anticipate revived prospects once GOP Gov.-elect Kristi Noem takes office in January.

The legislation languished under retiring Republican Gov. Dennis Daugaard, but Noem in her campaign offered support for a so-called constitutional carry law. GOP state Sen.-elect Lynne DiSanto, who as a member of the state House of Representatives sponsored a permitless concealed carry bill that Daugaard vetoed, said such legislation is likely in the upcoming session and she's optimistic about its prospects.

"There are a lot of Republicans that are very excited to have a conservative governor," said DiSanto. "I think under a new governor it's very likely to pass."

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Read it and weep.



punaperson

Re: The People's Republic of Hawaii compared to the United States of America
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 06:32:14 AM »
Just for fun I did some calculations based upon the 108,000 CCW permits currently in effect in South Dakota. That works out to 1 in every 5.8 people in the state over the age of 21 (minimum age for permit issuance) having a permit and potentially carrying a firearm in public. One out of every six people you see in public is licensed to carry and could be carrying there in the grocery store or at the gas station, etc. And yet, despite all the dire warnings of "wild west", "shootouts over parking places", etc. that we hear time and time again from the idiots politicians here in Hawaii, such things have not happened in South Dakota, nor anywhere else in the United States where a substantial portion of the population is licensed/permitted to carry, nor the dozen-plus states where people may carry without any permission slip from the government. That means, that the people here making such claims are either 1. dumb as a fucking rock ignorant of the facts, 2. lying, or 3. know something about the people of Hawaii that makes them different from the people living in the rest of the United States where people may exercise their right to bear arms and there is no consequent mayhem (the statistics of millions of licenses issued over the past 30 years actually shows that licensees are far more law-abiding than even cops, who are far more law-abiding than the general public). I have written every state legislator, and my Hawaii county legislators and bureaucrats, several times, and asked them to reveal to me what it is they know, and how they know it, that Hawaii residents are more likely than their mainland counterparts to become irresponsible criminals once they are licensed to carry in public. Not surprisingly, not one single one of them has ever responded, much less provided an answer, which isn't surprising, since we all know there is no answer and they are lying. Just sayin'...

6716J

Re: The People's Republic of Hawaii compared to the United States of America
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2018, 06:55:22 PM »
Well over in Missouri, it seems that those evil gun owners slaughtered almost 100,000 deer for the opening weekend on November 10th. And so being conservative if every hunter had a doe and buck tag, there were 50,000 armed men and women running around the state looking to kill other mammals. And yet no humans were killed.... Hmmm I guess those guns were faulty as they didn't do their jobs correctly
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