Coal Plant Saved Oahu Consumers $2 Billion Dollars --It will be replaced by Rolling Blackouts (Read 3196 times)

aletheuo137

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/33960/August-19-2022-News-Read

SA: …Per kilowatt-hour, electricity from the AES plant costs 6 cents, compared with about 30 cents for power from oil. The AES plant had supplied around 16% of Oahu’s electricity in recent decades, though more recently it had been 10%.
Though a growing amount of power on Oahu is from solar farms where costs range from 9 to 13 cents per kilowatt-hour, Hawaiian Electric initially will have to burn more oil to offset the loss of production from the coal plant, and therefore recently estimated that a typical residential customer using 500 kilowatt-hours of electricity a month will see their bill rise by $15, or 7%….
When AES was building the $383 million plant in 1991 to address growing electricity needs on Oahu, it announced an effort to offset plant greenhouse gas emissions by contributing up to $2 million to help The Nature Conservancy buy 143,000 acres of forest in Paraguay…
Of the facility’s 41 employees, about six will do decommissioning work, and a dozen are to dismantle the plant over three years. Another dozen are retiring or have found new jobs outside AES, while about eight have secured jobs at other AES facilities in Hawaii or on the mainland….
Several state lawmakers led by Sen. Maile Shimabu­kuro (D, Kalaeloa-Waianae- Makaha) presented AES representatives with a certificate recognizing the plant for its operations and saving ratepayers $2 billion to $4 billion over three decades compared with the cost of power produced from oil….


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astroboy

Right now people are suffering through high inflation and the depression. You would think that our gov. would
take steps to protect and help people in times like these but NO, they will not help. The last thing we need is
to add another brick on the backs of our people.
 
The PUC, the governor, and other public officials have taken the position that the law passed a few years ago
mandates that the coal plant must to be shut down. It is the law. Never mind that laws can be delayed, or
repealed as needed. Remember the TMT project? They throw their hands up in the air and declare that:
"It is such a sad situation but what can we do" They are unwilling to admit they may have been a bit too hasty.

The rest of the world is ramping up coal use to produce electricity. Germany will have to rebuild the nuclear plants that they recently dismantled.Their plan was to rely on Putin for energy. What a dumb idea. They will now have to burn coal. Austria will do the same.China recently completed the worlds largest coal fired plant and will continue to buy HUUGE amounts of coal from the USA. The UK is in a real mess. They scrapped many coal fired elec. power plants and now this winter they predict that the average monthly heating bill will exceed the average monthly income of people in the UK.

Oahu will now replace one fossil fuel with another fossil fuel that costs 5 times more. Go figure.
 
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Lihikai

Recent legislation restores the federal tax credit for home solar to 30%.  Good time to consider solar PV or water heating.  Many solar companies have arrangements w/financial institutions for zero interest financing.

ren

This doesn't affect the political elite here in Hawaii. Look at their incomes. Gov Ige brings in mid 6 figs just with his State salary - who knows what else LLCs, non-profit "foundations" he has on the side. He did say he has a $3 million rental on the Big Island.
Deeds Not Words

groveler

Recent legislation restores the federal tax credit for home solar to 30%.  Good time to consider solar PV or water heating.  Many solar companies have arrangements w/financial institutions for zero interest financing.
"Many solar companies have arrangements w/financial institutions for zero interest financing."
I am going to take advantage of the latest tax law change, but I'm doing my own ground mount
off Grid system, But I'm electronics engineer.

That being said,  most those solar guys are like used car salesmen.
I'd research their projects and ask if the purchaser was happy at
paying double for all the hardware in such a system.
I bought my panels for $0.60 per Watt from a mainland supplier. 
Delivered to Hilo harbor from a Honolulu warehouse.
See what your people want for their panels.
PS there are only about five or six companies making panels
but middle men re-label those panels with their "Brand" name.
Be careful.


Lihikai

There's a guy on the BI - he has a YT channel called Mondern Off Grid DIY.  Some videos are pretty interesting.

groveler

There's a guy on the BI - he has a YT channel called Mondern Off Grid DIY.  Some videos are pretty interesting.


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I'm doing  an off grid system( design is called a solar backup generator) even though I'm grid connected, I don't want to depend on or deal with the power company,
so I'll have a manual transfer switch and run off my "generator" most the time.
WITH subsidies  my payback period is 5-8 years on a 10.6 KVA system. System life expectancy exceeds 25 years.
It is the law, I don't agree with it, but if the USA taxpayers want to subsidize 30% of my system, then so be it.
I get some of my tax dollars back.
Doesn't help city people much, but you can do smaller systems that may be cheaper than a multi fuel Generator for when rolling blackouts hit you.
 :geekdanc:




ren

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/08/31/with-costs-so-high-keeping-lights-is-more-challenge-local-shops/

After Hawaiian Electric announced an increase in electricity bills citing the state’s transition away from coal, businesses are worried about their bills.

Tom Ogawa, the owner of Lighting Concepts in Honolulu, said he has never seen his electricity bill this high in the 15 years he’s been in business.

“Earlier in the year was it about $600,” Ogawa said. “And now it’s closer to $1000.”

Ogawa said he knows that everybody is going through the same thing, businesses and homeowners alike.
Deeds Not Words

Rocky

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/08/29/hawaii-state-capitol-closed-due-severe-power-outage/

At around 9:30 p.m. Sunday, the Honolulu Fire Department said they received a call for a building fire at the state Capitol. Crews said they discovered light smoke from an electrical room. ::)
It is unclear if that incident is connected to the power outage. :wacko:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

changemyoil66

KHON2 this morning weather guy said the shut down of the coal plant will save people money.

Flapp_Jackson

KHON2 this morning weather guy said the shut down of the coal plant will save people money.

And having your car stolen saves you money, too.

Gas
Maintenance
Insurance
Registration
Safety Inspections
Parking fees

So much money saved!  Thanks, car thieves!!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Heavies

Just buy and electric car and stop complaining!  When you can't charge it, and it is sitting in your garage, you are saving the planet!  ZERO emissions!

Eo12

It would be helpful if they ran the plants efficiently but because of the decoupling regulations that passed a few years back, they’re allowed to pass fuel costs directly to users. They’re running the more expensive diesel ones instead of the fuel oil plants because it’s easier and quicker, not cheaper for customers. Expect higher bills until they’re made to run efficiently.

Rocky

Yesterday saw all but 2 of the Kahuku windmills turning.
First time I saw majority online.
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

changemyoil66

And having your car stolen saves you money, too.

Gas
Maintenance
Insurance
Registration
Safety Inspections
Parking fees

So much money saved!  Thanks, car thieves!!

Except CAT stealers. No way to filter the emissions. Too bad the green people don't blame them more.  1 has to start the car and pollute way more, then realize it's been stolen and later if possible, drive it to the mechanic.  I've heard that newer cars won't even start due to the O2 censor missing. My aunties 1999 Corolla sounds like a lawnmower with no CAT.

hvybarrels

Just checked my bill. Up 15% in August
The problem governments are trying to solve is the existence of your freedom.