Tulsi for 2a??? (Read 2504 times)

aletheuo137

Tulsi for 2a???
« on: November 04, 2022, 10:19:12 AM »
https://gettr.com/post/p1wmrz917e5

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2022, 10:33:18 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2022, 10:35:58 AM »
It's like her almost one hour podcast in that video was based on our 2aHawaii topics.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2022, 12:14:09 PM »

aletheuo137

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2022, 01:27:17 PM »
Republican embrace of Tulsi Gabbard draws scrutiny over Russia

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/republican-embrace-tulsi-gabbard-draws-scrutiny-over-russia

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stangzilla

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2022, 02:19:30 PM »
she's a fence walker

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2022, 02:38:07 PM »
Republican embrace of Tulsi Gabbard draws scrutiny over Russia

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/republican-embrace-tulsi-gabbard-draws-scrutiny-over-russia
I think she's not wrong.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO, but ever since Russia attacked, they have begged to become one.

"Open the door!  I haven't been a dues-paying member, but I'm in danger now.  Help us!  Let us in!"

Imagine if every country with neighbor problems could just ask to join NATO whenever their sovereignty is threatened, but they refuse to join during peacetime and share the cost of helping other members.

The fact that we have been engaging in never-ending wars having no clear plan on what victory looks like is spot on.  Biden boasts about leaving Afghanistan (a totally screwed up withdrawal at that), but now gets us involved in a proxy war with Russia?  There is no rationale where that makes any sense.  Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

We are wasting our nation's "treasure" to prop up a country that is not even an ally.  Did Kuwait teach us nothing?

We can't stabilize a region that refuses to act in a stabile manner.  We've tried for over a century to project our power onto others so they will be friends.  So far, most of those friends have rarely returned that favor.

 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2022, 04:52:48 PM »
The fact that we have been engaging in never-ending wars having no clear plan on what victory looks like is spot on.  Biden boasts about leaving Afghanistan (a totally screwed up withdrawal at that), but now gets us involved in a proxy war with Russia?  There is no rationale where that makes any sense.  Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Looking at the situation you described from an American Republic perspective, the foreign policy actions taken since WWII does not make any sense.

However, if you analyze the same situation from a perspective of America being an empire, those same actions make total sense.



Did Kuwait teach us nothing?
The first US-Iraq War only taught the Power Okole that runs the US empire that their once vassal puppet Saddam Hussein needs to go since he would no longer do their bidding as he did in the past.



We've tried for over a century to project our power onto others so they will be friends. 
There is something obscenely wrong with that statement.  Since when did power projection earn the friendship with other nations?

Looking back into World history, power projection among nations has almost always been used to intimidate or force other nations into compliance with the geopolitical goals of that nation that is doing the power projection.



So far, most of those friends have rarely returned that favor.
Why should any nation submit to the overt/covert threats and/or provacations (i.e., power projection) made by another nation?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2022, 05:09:19 PM »
Looking at the situation you described from an American Republic perspective, the foreign policy actions taken since WWII does not make any sense.

However, if you analyze the same situation from a perspective of America being an empire, those same actions make total sense.


The first US-Iraq War only taught the Power Okole that runs the US empire that their once vassal puppet Saddam Hussein needs to go since he would no longer do their bidding as he did in the past.


There is something obscenely wrong with that statement.  Since when did power projection earn the friendship with other nations?

Looking back into World history, power projection among nations has almost always been used to intimidate or force other nations into compliance with the geopolitical goals of that nation that is doing the power projection.


Why should any nation submit to the overt/covert threats and/or provacations (i.e., power projection) made by another nation?

Japan and Germany were defeated by Our Allied Forces, and we became allies with them to help rebuild post-wartime.

I consider Japan a friend of the US.  Germany has been, and remains diplomatically positive in most situations.  All depends on who is in charge at the moment.

In every instance you point to, we didn't start that war.  We were there to choose a side and help them.  That's what I meant by projecting our power -- not "on" them, but to support them.

I should have used better terminology.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

QUIETShooter

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2022, 05:42:25 PM »
she's a fence walker

I feel the same way.  But I'm glad, at least for the time being(?) she left the Democrat Party.

I'm still wary of this beauty, but one thing is clear: 

She is extremely intelligent, articulate, and possesses the skill set to motivate and influence people.

Would make a great partner for whoever runs for POTUS in 2024 on the republican ticket.  (forget biden).
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Kalikikopa

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2022, 04:14:04 PM »


She is extremely intelligent, articulate, and possesses the skill set to motivate and influence people.

Would make a great partner for whoever runs for POTUS in 2024 on the republican ticket.  (forget biden).
I understand your position, and agree it would be great if we could have someone who is as intelligent and articulate as she comes across. I still don't believe she is a conservative though.
My thought is she is a moderate democrat, who is now without a place with the liberals dragging the democrats so far to the left her position now looks conservative. I just hope her move to conservatism not hypercritical.
 That being said, If she is genuine she would have my support over many others in the republican party.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2022, 06:48:55 PM »
I understand your position, and agree it would be great if we could have someone who is as intelligent and articulate as she comes across. I still don't believe she is a conservative though.
My thought is she is a moderate democrat, who is now without a place with the liberals dragging the democrats so far to the left her position now looks conservative. I just hope her move to conservatism not hypercritical.
 That being said, If she is genuine she would have my support over many others in the republican party.

I don't remember her ever calling herself Conservative.  She's labeling herself an Independent now.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2022, 06:50:45 PM »

hvybarrels

Re: Tulsi for 2a???
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2022, 07:37:57 PM »
FYI, not claiming this is true...

https://www.google.com/search?q=tulsi+gabbard+cult

https://www.google.com/search?q=tulsi+gabbard+chris+butler

Check out the dates on those pieces. The hit stories on her always seem to get dragged out in batches whenever she has a disagreement with the leadership of the Democratic Party. The timing is not coincidental.

I have been shopping at Down To Earth for a few years and have to say that it feels way less culty than it used to. Not sure if SIF is easing up on the brainwashing or they are just hiring more outside people but the vibe is definitely more friendly. I never liked the University location, but they have the best bulk herbs so I was stuck going there until the other stores started opening up.



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