Dirty Cops (Read 3669 times)

hvybarrels

Dirty Cops
« on: June 13, 2023, 12:25:05 PM »
Another Miske witness winds up dead in questionable circumstances and cops rule it a suicide.

These are the guys we have to beg permission in order to exercise our constitutional rights and will do their best to destroy our lives if we attempt to defend ourselves.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/13/brother-murdered-man-connected-crime-boss-case-found-dead-sinkhole/
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2023, 12:50:56 PM »
I'd have to guess anyone acting as a confidential informant is doing it to avoid prison versus a sense of right or wrong.

These deaths are reminders to be careful who you associate with.  Not all consequences are this extreme, but being in a position to report to LE on a "crime boss" tells me you aren't using good judgment.

Cops aren't often motivated to solve the murders of criminals.

I'll be amazed if anyone is ever held accountable unless another arrested criminal is looking for a deal.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2023, 01:06:00 PM »


They told him if he doesn't hang himself, they will go after his mom and family.  Thus he "committed suicide". Then the other guys wrapped him in a blanket and put him in a ditch. IDK if that's against the law to do.

So no protection from the LEO for him or his family I guess.

Now let's use whataboutism

He hung himself and wore a blanket cause he was cold.  After the deed was done, the branch broke and caused his body to hit the ground.  Then rolled in a ditch due to gravity and the wind blowing.

groveler

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2023, 01:59:10 PM »
I've lived in rural Hawaii 23.5 years now
I was on Guam for a year and a half.
I was in the air force but I worked part time when off duty
with the Locals for over a year.
I always volunteered for grave shift in the military.
Military always took priority.
But I delivered a lot of food
All legal of course.

I understand Island life.
It is all about family and who you know.
and how you treat people.
Assholes don't always do so well.
Some that are well connected get away with murder.
That is un-fortunate but Democrats dominate the police
and government here.
They are one big family.
 :grrr:


Flapp_Jackson

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2023, 02:00:02 PM »

They told him if he doesn't hang himself, they will go after his mom and family.  Thus he "committed suicide". Then the other guys wrapped him in a blanket and put him in a ditch. IDK if that's against the law to do.

So no protection from the LEO for him or his family I guess.

Now let's use whataboutism

He hung himself and wore a blanket cause he was cold.  After the deed was done, the branch broke and caused his body to hit the ground.  Then rolled in a ditch due to gravity and the wind blowing.

42 states have laws that criminalize coerced suicide in response to the increase in teen suicides nationwide as they relate to cyber-bullying.  Most of the states do not differentiate between digital communication based coercion and other means.  if it's determined the coercion or harassment was the cause of the suicide, the person deemed liable can be charged with 2nd degree murder.

Hawaii law defines 2nd degree murder as:
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Intentionally or knowingly causing the death of another person,
except for those killings that qualify as first-degree murder.

I'd say coercing someone to fasten a noose around their neck and hang themselves qualifies as murder.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2023, 02:08:38 PM »
These deaths are reminders to be careful who you associate with.  Not all consequences are this extreme, but being in a position to report to LE on a "crime boss" tells me you aren't using good judgment.

I think you're missing the point here.

We know Miske was working with the Kealohas, and even got the private phone number of officer Jared Spiker so that he could call him up and threaten him.

The question is if the officers who were working with Miske are all supposedly gone now, how come his witness list keeps getting shorter and shorter and HPD still seems to be covering up for the mysterious murders?
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2023, 03:22:52 PM »
Another Miske witness winds up dead in questionable circumstances and cops rule it a suicide.

These are the guys we have to beg permission in order to exercise our constitutional rights and will do their best to destroy our lives if we attempt to defend ourselves.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/13/brother-murdered-man-connected-crime-boss-case-found-dead-sinkhole/

That article doesn't say anything about suicide. They ruled it an unattended death.

Not sure where the corruption allegation is stemming from here.

macsak

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2023, 04:38:36 PM »
swoooooosh

That article doesn't say anything about suicide. They ruled it an unattended death.

Not sure where the corruption allegation is stemming from here.

zippz

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2023, 04:55:48 PM »
It says no foul play suspected so suicide would be assumed.

Could go either way.  Homeless are more susceptible to suicide while he could've been Epstein'd too.

hvybarrels

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2023, 05:13:27 PM »
It says no foul play suspected so suicide would be assumed.

Could go either way.  Homeless are more susceptible to suicide while he could've been Epstein'd too.

I would also be more likely to blame it on lazy cops if it wasn’t for his brother getting the Epstein treatment at OCCC
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

macsak

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2023, 05:35:33 PM »
no foui pay could also be an accident...

It says no foul play suspected so suicide would be assumed.

Could go either way.  Homeless are more susceptible to suicide while he could've been Epstein'd too.

changemyoil66

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2023, 05:57:26 PM »
42 states have laws that criminalize coerced suicide in response to the increase in teen suicides nationwide as they relate to cyber-bullying.  Most of the states do not differentiate between digital communication based coercion and other means.  if it's determined the coercion or harassment was the cause of the suicide, the person deemed liable can be charged with 2nd degree murder.

Hawaii law defines 2nd degree murder as:
I'd say coercing someone to fasten a noose around their neck and hang themselves qualifies as murder.
Meant moving a body hanging from a noose and wrapping in a blanket.

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changemyoil66

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2023, 05:58:23 PM »
no foui pay could also be an accident...
When ur ex says "i tripped and fell on his dick".

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aieahound

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2023, 06:43:01 PM »
“My son hung himself, he died, got off whatever he hung himself on, wrapped himself in a blanket and crawled into a hole?” Salas said.

Great line.
HPD. No corruption ? Rocket Scientists ?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2023, 06:44:27 PM »
Meant moving a body hanging from a noose and wrapping in a blanket.

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That would normally be under tampering with a crime scene, tampering with or destroying evidence, and/or tampering with a deceased human body (a felony).  There's also a misdemeanor of abuse of a deceased body.

Abuse would be like robbing a grave or tomb of a corpse or doing anything with it that would offend or outrage the relatives of the deceased.

Laws vary by state, of course.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2023, 07:02:21 PM »
Laws vary by state, of course.

Come on Google Fu Master. 
(The remaining post is for everybody. I just can’t help poking. Sometimes funny to me. He alleges he blocked me any way) 

H.R.S 711-1108. ( Misdemeanor )

 “    §711-1108  Abuse of a corpse.  (1)  A person commits the offense of abuse of a corpse if, except as authorized by law, the person:
     (a)  Treats a human corpse in a way that the person knows would outrage ordinary family sensibilities; or…”

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol14_ch0701-0853/hrs0711/hrs_0711-1108.htm#:~:text=§711%2D1108%20Abuse%20of%20a%20corpse.%20(&text=(2)%20An%20entity%20to%20whom,body%20without%20a%20disposition%20permit.

Cutting him down, wrapping him in a rug and putting him in ditch and covering him with brush and not notifying authorities to notify next of kin.
That would outrage my ordinary family sensibilities.

We’ll never know if they (whoever) destroyed evidence.

And no comments about the $700K ?
« Last Edit: June 13, 2023, 07:25:00 PM by aieahound »

eyeeatingfish

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2023, 03:51:02 AM »
It says no foul play suspected so suicide would be assumed.

Could go either way.  Homeless are more susceptible to suicide while he could've been Epstein'd too.

Unattended just means unknown. Suicide, illness, accident, or just plain unknown, like if a body is too badly decomposed to tell it was a murder right away.

The news report seems to be just telling it from the mother's account and HPD didn't make a statement so who knows if the mom is relaying it accurately. Certainly not evidence of corruption without something else.

zippz

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2023, 12:08:15 PM »
Unattended just means unknown. Suicide, illness, accident, or just plain unknown, like if a body is too badly decomposed to tell it was a murder right away.

The news report seems to be just telling it from the mother's account and HPD didn't make a statement so who knows if the mom is relaying it accurately. Certainly not evidence of corruption without something else.

The suicide from hanging makes sense in this case.  There's no press releases or media attention on suicides to prevent copy cats and to save dignity for the family.  Not much has been stated in this case.  Saying someone got hanged versus died from accident or illness is very different, so I'd give some credibility to her account.  So odds say suicide...

....or it could be a coverup by the deep state  :shake:

changemyoil66

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2023, 12:15:10 PM »
no foui pay could also be an accident...

Myocarditis.

aieahound

Re: Dirty Cops
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2023, 11:25:44 PM »
....or it could be a coverup by the deep state  :shake:

Deep….But not the State.