Occurred to me having some electronic muffs at hand at night both for protection if shooting went on, to aiding my destroyed hearing for faint sounds.

Would be nice if they turned on when picked up and shut down later to save battery power.

Anyone heard of such a thing?  Red dots can be had with that tech.

i have these:

Howard Leight by Honeywell Impact Sport Sound Amplification Electronic Shooting Earmuff, Black
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G8POKMY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

-- Automatic shut-off feature after four hours saves battery

You still have to cycle the power switch to turn them on again after shutdown.

i think one thing to consider is, do you really want them to shutoff just at the moment you're about to squeeze the trigger?  If your head movement was minimal for a period of time, how long would you want them to remain on?  Four hours pretty much meets my outside threshold for inactivity.   

The auto-on feature you describe trusts that they will know when you need them on, and when you don't.  What if you're still as a mouse to avoid detection, but then need to shoot from the same position?  Easy to imagine how the on/off feature would be hit or miss.

I'd recommend having non-electronic hearing protection.  Just like a battery-operated gun safe, you don't want to find out the batteries need changing at the wrong time.

Chances are, when you wear hearing protection in the situation you describe, the only thing you'll hear is your heart pounding.  if you want to listen for faint sounds, you should have NO hearing protection on.  If you want to protect your hearing should you need to shoot, then accept the fact you can't do both.

Personally, it's a matter of priority.  i think it's a higher priority for me to identify the person as friend or foe before taking a shot.  That likely means turning on a light (lamp, weapon light, flashlight, whatever).  Ears are good for knowing someone is there, but eyes are necessary for target identification and acquisition.

It's a dilemma, no doubt.  You need to USE your senses up to the point of potentially INJURING your senses. 

I'm not sure there's an optimal solution other than to buy an oil filter or solvent trap.   

i have these:

Howard Leight by Honeywell Impact Sport Sound Amplification Electronic Shooting Earmuff, Black
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G8POKMY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

-- Automatic shut-off feature after four hours saves battery

You still have to cycle the power switch to turn them on again after shutdown.

i think one thing to consider is, do you really want them to shutoff just at the moment you're about to squeeze the trigger?  If your head movement was minimal for a period of time, how long would you want them to remain on?  Four hours pretty much meets my outside threshold for inactivity.   

The auto-on feature you describe trusts that they will know when you need them on, and when you don't.  What if you're still as a mouse to avoid detection, but then need to shoot from the same position?  Easy to imagine how the on/off feature would be hit or miss.

I'd recommend having non-electronic hearing protection.  Just like a battery-operated gun safe, you don't want to find out the batteries need changing at the wrong time.

Chances are, when you wear hearing protection in the situation you describe, the only thing you'll hear is your heart pounding.  if you want to listen for faint sounds, you should have NO hearing protection on.  If you want to protect your hearing should you need to shoot, then accept the fact you can't do both.

Personally, it's a matter of priority.  i think it's a higher priority for me to identify the person as friend or foe before taking a shot.  That likely means turning on a light (lamp, weapon light, flashlight, whatever).  Ears are good for knowing someone is there, but eyes are necessary for target identification and acquisition.

It's a dilemma, no doubt.  You need to USE your senses up to the point of potentially INJURING your senses. 

I'm not sure there's an optimal solution other than to buy an oil filter or solvent trap.   

no one here does anything illegal...

no one here does anything illegal...

Please show where I said otherwise.

Please show where I said otherwise.

please show me where i said you did recommend doing anything illegal...

please show me where i said you did recommend doing anything illegal...

Given the context as a reply to my post -- including highlighted text -- it's obvious you implied it.

Given the context as a reply to my post -- including highlighted text -- it's obvious you implied it.

obvious in your mind that i "implied" it

i was making a simple statement...

obvious in your mind that i "implied" it

i was making a simple statement...

it's amazing that a moderator would derail a thread like this over nothing.

This is what I get for ignoring that I have you on ignore.  i was hoping for once you might have something useful to add.  I regret responding to you.  i obviously know better.

Simple is as simple does.

it's amazing that a moderator would derail a thread like this over nothing.

This is what I get for ignoring that I have you on ignore.  i was hoping for once you might have something useful to add.  I regret responding to you.  i obviously know better.

Simple is as simple does.

you derailed the thread by talking about a solvent trap or oil filter...

Personally, it's a matter of priority.  i think it's a higher priority for me to identify the person as friend or foe before taking a shot.  That likely means turning on a light (lamp, weapon light, flashlight, whatever).  Ears are good for knowing someone is there, but eyes are necessary for target identification and acquisition.

It's a dilemma, no doubt.  You need to USE your senses up to the point of potentially INJURING your senses. 

Perhaps you ignored the fact that I need amplification to hear much of anything except loud noise.   Some one could be jiggling a back door and I might not hear a thing once inside.

Sure not going to try and put my hearing aids in so I can ID sounds in the dark.

I have MSA/Sordin muffs.  They are pretty good for SA for sounds.  I can typically hear more during gunfire than I could without muffs or plugs.  I can typically hear folks' conversation in pretty good detail say within about 20 feet or so.  I recently picked up a new version of the MSA/Sordin muffs (SWATcom) and the audio seems much improved.  I haven't been able to test in live fire, but it seems more "active" than previous versions.  The product description mentioned better "360 degree sound", but I haven't tested. 

These models have shutoff functions, but not motion activated on.  I figure if I have time to put them on, I would have time to turn on the sound function. 

note to self:
don't talk shit about drck at the range...

I have MSA/Sordin muffs.  They are pretty good for SA for sounds.  I can typically hear more during gunfire than I could without muffs or plugs.  I can typically hear folks' conversation in pretty good detail say within about 20 feet or so.  I recently picked up a new version of the MSA/Sordin muffs (SWATcom) and the audio seems much improved.  I haven't been able to test in live fire, but it seems more "active" than previous versions.  The product description mentioned better "360 degree sound", but I haven't tested. 

These models have shutoff functions, but not motion activated on.  I figure if I have time to put them on, I would have time to turn on the sound function.

note to self:
don't talk shit about drck at the range...

since you don't own firearms, are you going to just be "perving" on those shooting? 

heads

since you don't own firearms, are you going to just be "perving" on those shooting?

Perhaps you ignored the fact that I need amplification to hear much of anything except loud noise.   Some one could be jiggling a back door and I might not hear a thing once inside.

Sure not going to try and put my hearing aids in so I can ID sounds in the dark.

I think you're stuck in the middle. Since you don't sleep with your hearing aid, when something goes bump in the night, you wont hear it until it's too late or makes a huge sound like the TV crashes on the floor.  At this point, ear pro is the least of your worries.

Same goes with eye pro. But I do remember 1 person here who stated he leaves boots at the base of his bed in case of an emergency.  So to each their own.

If you can put your ear pro on, you can take that second to flick the switch on for an electronic ear pro. Since your hand is already on it to put it over your head/ears.  So no need shake awake technology like RDS have.

i have these:

Howard Leight by Honeywell Impact Sport Sound Amplification Electronic Shooting Earmuff, Black
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G8POKMY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

-- Automatic shut-off feature after four hours saves battery

You still have to cycle the power switch to turn them on again after shutdown.

i think one thing to consider is, do you really want them to shutoff just at the moment you're about to squeeze the trigger?  If your head movement was minimal for a period of time, how long would you want them to remain on?  Four hours pretty much meets my outside threshold for inactivity.   

The auto-on feature you describe trusts that they will know when you need them on, and when you don't.  What if you're still as a mouse to avoid detection, but then need to shoot from the same position?  Easy to imagine how the on/off feature would be hit or miss.

I'd recommend having non-electronic hearing protection.  Just like a battery-operated gun safe, you don't want to find out the batteries need changing at the wrong time.

Chances are, when you wear hearing protection in the situation you describe, the only thing you'll hear is your heart pounding.  if you want to listen for faint sounds, you should have NO hearing protection on.  If you want to protect your hearing should you need to shoot, then accept the fact you can't do both.

Personally, it's a matter of priority.  i think it's a higher priority for me to identify the person as friend or foe before taking a shot.  That likely means turning on a light (lamp, weapon light, flashlight, whatever).  Ears are good for knowing someone is there, but eyes are necessary for target identification and acquisition.

It's a dilemma, no doubt.  You need to USE your senses up to the point of potentially INJURING your senses. 

I'm not sure there's an optimal solution other than to buy an oil filter or solvent trap.   

I bought a pair upon your recommendations a while back.

I must say, despite my hearing impairment, when I have those on I can hear conversations pretty well.  I don't have to put on my hearing aids, but won't hear the finer sounds very well.

But they would be easier to put on instead of my tiny hearing aids in the dark...........

But they would be easier to put on instead of my tiny hearing aids in the dark...........

There you go, and the last thing I need is hearing aid amplified gunshot noise.

My old Caldwell muffs do not work well, hardly dampen sound at all and stay on of course.
Usually just use compressible foam plugs at the range, far better shot dampening.

Perhaps you ignored the fact that I need amplification to hear much of anything except loud noise.   Some one could be jiggling a back door and I might not hear a thing once inside.

Sure not going to try and put my hearing aids in so I can ID sounds in the dark.

You lost me.  If you need a hearing aid to hear someone jiggling a door, how will you know to put the amplified ear muffs on?  I assume in the shower or bed -- someplace you won't have your hearing aids in -- are the times you'll want an alternative amplifier?  Are you intending to keep the earmuffs on anytime you aren't wearing your aids? 

If I were in your situation, I'd have a tight perimeter with alarm sensors and cameras to let me know if anyone is there who shouldn't be.  A few Ring cameras with motion sensing and Ring Chimes/Cell Notification/Alexa monitoring would alert you when something moves.  Then you can check it out using the video without having to grab a gun and ear protection to investigate where the motion was.  The volume on the chime devices is adjustable and get pretty loud at the highest setting.

Much better technology available to do what you're looking for than earmuffs IMO.  Using surveillance cameras may give you more time to put earmuffs on if needed, too.  Plus, you get video of the events for evidence if necessary.

Yeah, it costs more, is more complicated, etc, etc.  But with the cost of Wifi cameras today, it's a drop in the bucket compared to being home alone and unable to physically see and hear every potential entry point.