Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island) (Read 10064 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2023, 07:33:46 AM »
Stop responding then.
Thanks for playing

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changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2023, 07:34:33 AM »
Sayings are not facts.  Assuming there is another side that actually makes sense is not rational without evidence of what that side entails.

Cops don't have to listen to any side.  if he sees a fight, he can arrest them both and let the judge sort it out while the two causing a public disturbance cool off and sober up.

Trump doesn't have to have a "side" unless the accusers present actual evidence of real, fact-based wrong-doing.  Not some ambiguous "abuse of power" BS because he was looking for evidence of wrong-doing by the Bidens.

If there's another side to any story, it's not my place as a consumer of news to ask for the other side unless the facts reported don't add up.  in this instance, they do add up -- objectively speaking.  If you want more, fine, just don't assume facts not reported, as in 'that's not the full story in the police report." 

Did you see the official report?  Or are you trusting what the media SAID is in the report?

Yeah, i thought so.
He forgets when to use logic

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2023, 08:30:51 AM »
Assuming that two parties in a grievance will always tell you the same story means you live absent reality.

Cops don't have to listen to both sides but they should, it makes them better cops.

I made no assumptions here. I didn't assume that the police report said anything different and even if it did say something different I wouldn't assume that it was any more trustworthy than what Mr. Day is alleging.

Who are the two parties in the Day case?  The Cop is not a "party".  He's the responding officer -- the referee as such.  To say there are 2 sides insinuates the Cop and Day were involved in a dispute.  Is that your assumption?  That the officer wasn't an impartial third party?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2023, 04:10:11 PM »
Who are the two parties in the Day case?  The Cop is not a "party".  He's the responding officer -- the referee as such.  To say there are 2 sides insinuates the Cop and Day were involved in a dispute.  Is that your assumption?  That the officer wasn't an impartial third party?

Day is one party, the government, or more specifically the police department is the other party.

The individual officer would probably not be considered a party since the administration is the one who denied Mr. Day, unless the officer somehow had a role in the denial. Two sides is a generic phrase, sometimes there are 3 sides or more, don't get hung up on that. The point is that people's retelling of an event can vary, they may not even be directly contradictory but they can contain subtle differences, things included or not included that present a certain image. I have no idea whether the report is consistent with Mr. Day's explanation or not. I only wondering if there were differences. Not something we need 3 pages over.

changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2023, 05:29:55 PM »
Day is one party, the government, or more specifically the police department is the other party.

The individual officer would probably not be considered a party since the administration is the one who denied Mr. Day, unless the officer somehow had a role in the denial. Two sides is a generic phrase, sometimes there are 3 sides or more, don't get hung up on that. The point is that people's retelling of an event can vary, they may not even be directly contradictory but they can contain subtle differences, things included or not included that present a certain image. I have no idea whether the report is consistent with Mr. Day's explanation or not. I only wondering if there were differences. Not something we need 3 pages over.
Hahahahahha.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2023, 05:43:09 PM »
Hahahahahha.

He probably loved the WH Christmas video.  Tap dancing is his #1 skill!

 :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2023, 11:11:07 PM »
He probably loved the WH Christmas video.  Tap dancing is his #1 skill!

 :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc:


I hate dancing but I guess I danced circles around you  :rofl:

changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2023, 09:01:32 AM »

I hate dancing but I guess I danced circles around you  :rofl:

In your mind.

Whoop 3 pages.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2023, 09:41:35 AM »

I hate dancing but I guess I danced circles around you  :rofl:

i guess you probably believe that.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2024, 07:21:51 PM »
Big Island lost.

Day cannot be denied his CCw due to his pepper ball usage in self defense.

Alan Beck is still undefeated. Atty Rick Hilcombe also helped with this lawsuit.

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changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2024, 07:23:16 PM »
I wonder if the police report claims something significantly different than what Mr. Day is saying. It could be possible that something else in the report would justify this denial but if it is simply an admittance that he used pepper spray during an altercation once to defend himself that is pretty darn weak. If what he says is true I hope he wins.
So, its now clear the police report didnt say something different as HI lost.

I mean we all knew this already.



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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #51 on: March 29, 2024, 09:17:47 PM »
So, its now clear the police report didnt say something different as HI lost.

I mean we all knew this already.

Another example of reality kicking possibility's butt!

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2024, 12:20:37 AM »
So, its now clear the police report didnt say something different as HI lost.

I mean we all knew this already.

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You suspected. Now you know. Glad to clear that up for you

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2024, 08:18:35 AM »
You suspected. Now you know. Glad to clear that up for you

So, if you drop a hammer from a height of 3 feet, you only suspect it'll fall to the ground?

From my educated perspective, I know it'll fall 3 feet.

Glad i could clear that up for you.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2024, 08:29:23 AM »
You suspected. Now you know. Glad to clear that up for you
Nice try.

"Cmo, i was wrong about my usual whataboutism."

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2024, 10:18:18 PM »
So, if you drop a hammer from a height of 3 feet, you only suspect it'll fall to the ground?

From my educated perspective, I know it'll fall 3 feet.

Glad i could clear that up for you.

Bad analogy.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2024, 11:45:24 PM »
Bad analogy.

in your argumentative opinion.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2024, 08:43:19 AM »
Bad analogy.
Hahahhahahh says the president of bad analogy/example club.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2024, 10:06:05 PM »
Hahahhahahh says the president of bad analogy/example club.

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in your argumentative opinion.

changemyoil66

Re: Day vs. County of Hawaii (Big Island)
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2024, 08:16:00 AM »
in your argumentative opinion.

Hahahahha.