A few days ago there was a Japanese guy who was jailed for having replica grenades in his luggage.
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TSA agents stop man at Honolulu’s airport after finding prohibited items in his carry-on https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/07/12/tsa-agents-stop-man-honolulus-airport-after-finding-prohibited-items-his-carry-on/
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So this makes me wonder, when does a fake weapon become illegal to possess? When does a toy or tool become illegal?
I have several of these grip exercisers which I use to keep my handgun grip in shape. Would I end up in jail like that Japanese guy?

There is no HRS (state law) on replica guns or air guns. But there is Honolulu County ordinance (ROH).

" Any toy or other object which bears such a resemblance to an actual firearm that a reasonable person would have difficulty visually distinguishing it from an actual firearm, and which lacks any feature or aspect which would serve as a signal to allow a person to readily distinguish the replica gun from an actual firearm by sight. The term shall not include an actual firearm."

IDK about "replica weapons".  Your stress grenade looks fine.  THe stuff the guy had at the airport looked of real origin, but inert.

I've seen logan interact with someone who had a AWB holster and in it was something shaped like a pistol.  But it was covered with a sock. Chief didn't care or even ask about it.

A few days ago there was a Japanese guy who was jailed for having replica grenades in his luggage.
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TSA agents stop man at Honolulu’s airport after finding prohibited items in his carry-on https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/07/12/tsa-agents-stop-man-honolulus-airport-after-finding-prohibited-items-his-carry-on/
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So this makes me wonder, when does a fake weapon become illegal to possess? When does a toy or tool become illegal?
I have several of these grip exercisers which I use to keep my handgun grip in shape. Would I end up in jail like that Japanese guy?

I hope not but then again, this IS the banana republik of hawaii.

"handgun grip" in shape
riiiiiiiggggghhhhhhhttttttt

A few days ago there was a Japanese guy who was jailed for having replica grenades in his luggage.
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TSA agents stop man at Honolulu’s airport after finding prohibited items in his carry-on https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/07/12/tsa-agents-stop-man-honolulus-airport-after-finding-prohibited-items-his-carry-on/
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So this makes me wonder, when does a fake weapon become illegal to possess? When does a toy or tool become illegal?
I have several of these grip exercisers which I use to keep my handgun grip in shape. Would I end up in jail like that Japanese guy?

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"In that case, 41-year-old Akito Fukushima, of Kanazawa, Japan was arrested for first-degree terroristic threatening."

There is no HRS (state law) on replica guns or air guns. But there is Honolulu County ordinance (ROH).

" Any toy or other object which bears such a resemblance to an actual firearm that a reasonable person would have difficulty visually distinguishing it from an actual firearm, and which lacks any feature or aspect which would serve as a signal to allow a person to readily distinguish the replica gun from an actual firearm by sight. The term shall not include an actual firearm."

IDK about "replica weapons".  Your stress grenade looks fine.  THe stuff the guy had at the airport looked of real origin, but inert.

I've seen logan interact with someone who had a AWB holster and in it was something shaped like a pistol.  But it was covered with a sock. Chief didn't care or even ask about it.

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"In that case, 41-year-old Akito Fukushima, of Kanazawa, Japan was arrested for first-degree terroristic threatening."

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I was wondering about that.
Did he really make a threat or is that some kind of legal BS?
First degree implies he intended to terrorize people.
We may never know.

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I was wondering about that.
Did he really make a threat or is that some kind of legal BS?
First degree implies he intended to terrorize people.
We may never know.
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Hawaii law on terroristic threatening includes when a person “threatens, by word or conduct, to cause bodily injury to another person or serious damage or harm to property… in reckless disregard of the risk of terrorizing, another person; or… in reckless disregard of the risk of causing evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation.“ (emphasis added)

I’m guessing they’re relying on one of the “reckless disregard” clauses.

HRS 706-715

Basically he hurt their feelings

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"In that case, 41-year-old Akito Fukushima, of Kanazawa, Japan was arrested for first-degree terroristic threatening."

Focus on what?

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Terroristic threatening is an odd charge for this.  I guess there's no State law for stuff like this.  I figured this would fall under somekind of Federal statute since TSA does the screening. 

Guarantee they'll create a law next year to address this.

Terroristic threatening is an odd charge for this.  I guess there's no State law for stuff like this.  I figured this would fall under somekind of Federal statute since TSA does the screening. 

Guarantee they'll create a law next year to address this.

Depends on what he did. Mere possession in a bag would not be enough for a threatening charge. He would have had to do something with it or say something that would cause people to feel threatened.

Depends on what he did. Mere possession in a bag would not be enough for a threatening charge. He would have had to do something with it or say something that would cause people to feel threatened.

So, it's your OPINION that having what looks like an explosive device in your carry-on boarding a plane would not cause anyone screening his bags to feel threatened?

Gotcha.

did you even read what someone posted earlier in this thread???

Depends on what he did. Mere possession in a bag would not be enough for a threatening charge. He would have had to do something with it or say something that would cause people to feel threatened.

So, it's your OPINION that having what looks like an explosive device in your carry-on boarding a plane would not cause anyone screening his bags to feel threatened?

Gotcha.

Would you like me to give you the difference in meaning between threatened and scared? You seem to be conflating the two.

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Prosecutors office released a statement that the charges were trumped up because the TSA people were scared by the replicas themselves, not by anything the tourist did.

Literally it's a crime to hurt the feelings of a government worker now.

Prosecutors office released a statement that the charges were trumped up because the TSA people were scared by the replicas themselves, not by anything the tourist did.

Literally it's a crime to hurt the feelings of a government worker now.

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Interesting...got a link?

It's alright.  Hawaii doesn't want Japanese tourist money anyways.