Hate to admit it, but he did not do well in this debate. He was set up and Kamala executed her plan much better than I would’ve expected. Dude just cannot stay on point.

Hate to admit it, but he did not do well in this debate. He was set up and Kamala executed her plan much better than I would’ve expected. Dude just cannot stay on point.

He missed some opportunities for sure, but the "plan" they executed was to gang up on him.

They should enjoy the sugar rush of headlines today, because ABC/Disney totally exposes themseles as shameless Democratic propagandists and Americans who aren't totally brainwashed are starting to wake up.

He missed some opportunities for sure, but the "plan" they executed was to gang up on him.

They should enjoy the sugar rush of headlines today, because ABC/Disney totally exposes themseles as shameless Democratic propagandists and Americans who aren't totally brainwashed are starting to wake up.

He should’ve known they were going to do that though. My issue is that he needs to target the independents. He’s not winning over any leftists but the independents DO NOT want to vote for Kamala. Yet I’m not sure his lashing out and aggressive style compounded with Kamala rage baiting him is something that the independents can stomach.

One way to look at it is that it's all kamala can do.  She doesn't really have any policy to offer other than the flip flops that nobody is sure if she is genuine about.

So her campaign strategy is to rage bait him.  And yes, Trump is ripe for this.  It is his weakness.

So her supporters can say that she succeeded in pushing his buttons.  Hopefully more savvy people who are on the fence as to who to vote for will see that besides that accomplishment, what else was there to her performance?

She talks about family child tax credits and first time homebuyers credit.  But she never mentioned how she will go about getting the money to do those things. 

But she knows how she will do it.  She just doesn't want to explain it.  Because it involves the dreaded word: tax.  During election campaigns tax is an evil word.  Just ask George W. Bush.  The "read my lips" guy.

Now she is pushing for another debate, tentatively set for Oct. 10th.  Her campaign wants to put the final nail into the end of the Trump era.

I agree Trump should go after the independents.  Everyone else has more or less decided who they will vote for.

Last night she was well versed in what she plans and wants to do for America.  But not a hint as to how she will go about doing it. (and why these wonderful things were never implemented by her administration for the past 3.8 years.)

Trump should focus on policy and forget the past.  Debate her on policy.  kamala is sure to rage bait him again in October.

Exactly. She gets to lie and bullshit during her time but ends it with a jab against Trump and instead of pushing her on her policy specifics he ends up using all his time to lash out against baseless claims. It was a brilliant strategy.

Yet I’m not sure his lashing out and aggressive style compounded with Kamala rage baiting him is something that the independents can stomach.

You just fell into the talking points trap. The first step in defeating them is to not repeat them.
These are carefully constructed Neurolinguistic Programming cues designed bypass critical thinking and go straight to the lizard brain.
For the other side it produces an emotional boost by reinforcing confirmation bias, but for us it spreads demoralization by making our opponents seem larger than life.

Welcome to 5th generation warfare

You can pick Trump's answers apart and his inability to ignore obvious trolling questions related to rallies, etc., but Trump won the debate in his closing statement.

He asked why Kamala has all these plans now while running, but none of it was done in the last 3-1/2 years.  Why not? 

She also never answered several of the questions asked by mods, but unlike the way the circled back to Trump many times, they never did for her.  In particular was the question on tariffs.  She never answered why, if they are as bad as she's telling us, are the Trump tariffs still in place after 3-1/2 years of the Biden-Harris administration?

As usual, even the best plans are dangerous only if they come from Trump. 

Trump was fact checked 4-5 times and it turned out he was absolutely right except for maybe one.

In contrast Kamala was NEVER fact checked at all. The way I see it is that Kamala rarely
speaks anything factual on or off the debate stage any way. 

It was a 3 on one situation and ABC is being called out for doing so. All Kamala did was attack Trump and
she did not speak of any specifics of what she planned to do as POTUS. No surprises about that. 

Trump was fact checked 4-5 times and it turned out he was absolutely right except for maybe one.

In contrast Kamala was NEVER fact checked at all. The way I see it is that Kamala rarely
speaks anything factual on or off the debate stage any way. 

It was a 3 on one situation and ABC is being called out for doing so. All Kamala did was attack Trump and
she did not speak of any specifics of what she planned to do as POTUS. No surprises about that.

The Harris campaign finally posted issue positions on the campaign website -- the day before the debate!

Pathetic.

kamala probably sent doughnuts and Starbucks coffee to ABC this morning..........

kamala probably sent doughnuts and Starbucks coffee to ABC this morning..........

And the DNC sent a couple of direct banking transfers to  the moderators' accounts.

Dr. Steve has great commentary on the debate vs the poll results after the debate, and
Yes the single cat ladies who support Kamala are still silent about the situation in Springfield.

I think Trump did well. It's nice to see a human side of a politician. Who else wouldn't be upset that the deck is stacked, lawfare, etc...

There is no way a debate would cause a Harris voter to change their mind.  Even if she stated something like "fuc* y'all, y'all suckers for voting for me".

Any undecided voter is a moron.  The choice is a simple one if logic/brain is used.

i just checked the shiny new "ISSUES" section of the Harris campaign website.

They have not one, but FOUR sections dedicated to "Trump's Project 2025 Agenda", and yes, it's in red.  Even though the debate put to bed any link between Project 2025 and Trump, they will still push the lie so uninformed voters see it -- and in quadruplicate!

Almost all of her positions are platitudes and generalities.  Not much in the way of specific problem definitions nor solutions.

She's basically promising to:

-- lower college cost in order to reduce student debt (she's had almost 4 years),

-- lower energy costs (she's had almost 4 years)

-- bring down the cost of healthcare.  She says the Biden WH has already done a good job of this.  So, why did her new plan not get implemented to make costs cheaper before now?  (she's had almost 4 years)

-- reduce prices in stores owned by evil big corporations.  (she's had almost 4 years)

-- grow small businesses (she's had almost 4 years)

--  reduce middle class taxes (pandering to GOP voters) (she's had almost 4 years)

-- make rent more affordable (she's had almost 4 years)

-- make home ownership more affordable (she's had almost 4 years)

-- protect civil rights and freedoms (she's had almost 4 years)

etc, etc, etc

Reading the details of each issue position reads like a massive treasury-funded giveaway.  Billions for this, billions for that, but no details as to how any of it is funded.  That's because we all know the answer -- even if they can get it passed, the money will come from more national debt.  There's no other option.

I invite everyone to browse the issues they listed and the descriptions provided there.  Then post your thoughts on whether there's enough detail to make an informed decision as to how you'd vote for that position.

https://kamalaharris.com/issues/

You can pick Trump's answers apart and his inability to ignore obvious trolling questions related to rallies, etc., but Trump won the debate in his closing statement.

He asked why Kamala has all these plans now while running, but none of it was done in the last 3-1/2 years.  Why not? 

 

I think this would make a great campaign commercial ad.

Show Trumps closing statement with a big question mark accentuating why none of it was done in the last 3 1/2 years.

Then show in bold letters a statement saying kamala has no intention of following through with her promises because she essentially is a Joe Biden on Steroids......

This should jolt the undecideds out of kamala's "spread the joy" bullcrap.

When you ask the questions that are like "Have you stopped beating your wife",
Yes or No"  what do you expect?
 
Any answer you give is bad.
 
One thing this debate showed is why my decision to shun all Democrat run TV was a good one.
 

For those out there struggling to find out who kamala really is, keep struggling.

The only thing evident last night was that ABC News is biased.

Since when do moderators fact check the debaters.  Or should I say debater.  Trump was fact checked 5 times.  kamala?  Zeeeroooooowww.

She had a wonderful night, bless her heart.

You gotta read between the lines, people.  Please.

The company that made the ear phones that look like ear rings are now claiming that Kamala wore their product
during the debate. If this is true then that looks like cheating. Oh well what's one more dishonest thing done by
demorats. An investigation should be done to figure this out. We should have a hearing on this matter.