But they aren’t mature enough to own or operate firearms

https://www.kitv.com/news/gender-affirming-healthcare-bill-passes-in-hawaii/article_6e88ad16-e9d3-11ef-a79d-47453a058cc7.html

The phrase "life saving affirming care" is used.  So if someone felt that they were had $1million in the bank, but never did.  Then was suicidal because of it, wouldn't it be prudent to give them $1million?  Or would mental health be provided.

The bill is stacked with something that might help, like mental health counseling, that way they can focus on that and how dare you be against the bill.

How about if a 14 year old wanted to own a gun and their parent gave parental consent?

The bill doesn't authorize any surgery, but does authorize hormonal drugs.  Same same IMO.

This is what our law makers choose to focus on and anti 2a bills rather than on more effort to keep criminals behind bars, cost of living, etc...

The phrase "life saving affirming care" is used.  So if someone felt that they were had $1million in the bank, but never did.  Then was suicidal because of it, wouldn't it be prudent to give them $1million?  Or would mental health be provided.
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The phase "life saving affirming care" is the new "should be institutionalized as a threat to their own and possibly others' safety."

Feeding a delusion is enabling a skewed view of reality.  Forcing others to accept that delusion through pronouns and normalization is immoral particularly in cases involving preadolescents.

The doctors who push this stuff are guaranteeing themselves millions of dollars over the lifetime of the children they have broken.

Disease for profit model.

Modern Dr. Mengeles

But they aren’t mature enough to own or operate firearms

https://www.kitv.com/news/gender-affirming-healthcare-bill-passes-in-hawaii/article_6e88ad16-e9d3-11ef-a79d-47453a058cc7.html

Comparing this to firearms is apples to constitutional oranges.

A good comparison is they can mutilate themselves and destroy their endocrine system, yet can't get tattoos without parental consent because it's a "permanent, potentially life changing decision" that is also considered a health risk.

Comparing this to firearms is apples to constitutional oranges.

A good comparison is they can mutilate themselves and destroy their endocrine system, yet can't get tattoos without parental consent because it's a "permanent, potentially life changing decision" that is also considered a health risk.

Given the 2x suicide rate among the transgendered I think the comparison is sound.

Given the 2x suicide rate among the transgendered I think the comparison is sound.

Nah that's also an illogical argument.

Saying stuff like that can be turned into "that's why we need to ban guns."

It's a lot harder to justify genital mutilation and endocrine disruption/destruction procedures when tattoos are also considered medical procedure by the state and present significantly less risk, yet kids aren't allowed to get them until they are at least a specific age and with parental consent because of "danger".

You need to invalidate their argument, not give them more ammunition for other issues.

Nah that's also an illogical argument.

Saying stuff like that can be turned into "that's why we need to ban guns."

It's a lot harder to justify genital mutilation and endocrine disruption/destruction procedures when tattoos are also considered medical procedure by the state and present significantly less risk, yet kids aren't allowed to get them until they are at least a specific age and with parental consent because of "danger".

You need to invalidate their argument, not give them more ammunition for other issues.

The transgendered kids thing is rapidly declining in popular opinion. Pretty soon it's going to be one of those "what the hell were they thinking" moments in history.

The legislature are a bunch of cowards and have caved time and again to public pressure. It's not their opinions we to be concerned about, but the firestorm of backlash they are beginning to see on the horizon.

If a law encourages kids to engage in risky behavior that doubles their suicide rate, then that throws the whole "keep kids safe" argument right out the window.

The transgendered kids thing is rapidly declining in popular opinion. Pretty soon it's going to be one of those "what the hell were they thinking" moments in history.

The legislature are a bunch of cowards and have caved time and again to public pressure. It's not their opinions we to be concerned about, but the firestorm of backlash they are beginning to see on the horizon.

If a law encourages kids to engage in risky behavior that doubles their suicide rate, then that throws the whole "keep kids safe" argument right out the window.

You're looking at it from a point of common sense and logic. The state legislature has clearly demonstrated it doesn't operate on logic or common sense, instead operating by their own rules and focusing on their own political priorities instead of the priorities of the people and the responsibilities and limitations of their office.

Correlating firearms to what is largely mental illness will not highlight mental illness, but rather incentivize their priorities towards disarming the populace. They could care less about safety or helping their constituents unless it's suits their needs and goals.

I'm sure by now you'd have noticed that instead of cracking down on crime and holding criminals accountable, while at the same time addressing the culture that promotes criminal behavior and activity (i.e. what's happening in the Westside), they placed the emphasis on firearms. Why would this issue be any different?

Those are all great points

I should have spelled it out better that I’m not interested in convincing legislators as much as putting them under intense political pressure.

My focus is more on talking points that inspire people to start conversations about how insane the government is and what is the best way to implement the necessary changes within the limits of the law

God grant me the serenity to accept
      the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

affirm v.
1. To declare positively; assert to be true.
2. To declare support for or belief in.
3. To rule (a court decision) to have been correct; confirm.

Only those who want to reject their natural gender/sex need to have others affirm it.  Wonder why the rest of us, the vast majority, don't need to have our genders affirmed?

Seems like common sense.  If you want to be something you aren't, no amount of affirmation (or medical and cosmetic alterations) will make that wish come true.  The only way to affirm someone is the opposite sex or gender is to lie to them.  That's the opposite of truth.

Maybe we should be funding gender acceptance healthcare so people with such mental issues aren't trying to change reality to agree with their perception?

You can't fix a problem by perpetuating and exacerbating it.

This meme was way ahead of it's time.