Quote from: 2aHawaii on September 20, 2011, 07:18:54 AM

I wonder where the LDS get their supplies from. I mean, if they are selling them so cheap.

I was told by one of the young elders that it comes from a church run distribution center in the mainland...shipping is free. 

Quote from: antoinebugleboy on September 20, 2011, 10:53:18 AM

Or just buy an AK and a Glock and bury them in dirt. No need for sealants, bags, whatever. just dig them up, wash them off, and blast away. 

Funny. Sure AK's & Glocks are tough, but with ground termites eating any wood furniture and acidic dirt pitting the metal parts? You'd be lucky to dig up and salvage it for spare parts.

Not understanding why anyone would want to bury a weapon for a later grab? If you are run out of there and expect to come back and get it later, what makes you think you will be able to?  Are you expecting to stash these weapon somewhere where they will not be found? Good luck. 

I could see this on the mainland, where you can actually own property that nobody will EVER go on. Here? Nope.

Keep you weapons and friends close, and  your enemies closer....

You bury your guns, I'll keep mine on my hip. 

You bury your guns, I'll keep mine on my hip. 

This.

Burying guns....wtf?

I also got the OakTea amazon bags and was about to do the first batch today with Costco rice and beans but got called into work. Burying ammo along with some water filters and emergency food is ok, but guns are another thing. If SHTF doesn't happen right away and somebody commits a crime with your gun and they trace it back to you there will be a cell waiting for sure.

As far as places to bury there are some out of the way spots for sure, but considering how militarized this island is if you were ever to need that stuff it would be really difficult to get through all the checkpoints and watchful eyes. If it's near any critical infrastructure that would likely be guarded such as radio towers or water supplies then access could be impossible. Then again if it's a tsunami situation having some gear stashed in high places could really come in handy. Risky investment but it makes more sense than playing the stock market, trading currencies, or packing it away in a retirement plan.

Of course I don't recommend you actually store your guns this way, but:

My uncle stored an old rifle in a 55 gallon barrel of oil for 20 years ( minus the stock)

It came out in perfect condition, just oily.

A wise man once said, "If you think it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up!"

A wise man once said, "If you think it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up!"

Ancient proverb says.

"When the $hit hits the fan, don't stand in front of the fan."

I actually talked to this one guy about survivalism, and he kinda went off and told me about his group, how he has guns buried out in sea, 3-day BOBs, for each of his kids even, etc.

I actually talked to this one guy about survivalism, and he kinda went off and told me about his group, how he has guns buried out in sea, 3-day BOBs, for each of his kids even, etc.

I have bug out bags for each of my family members, but guns buried out at sea?   

Of course I don't recommend you actually store your guns this way, but:

I don't buy that you could bury a gun for 2 years with nothing in the mag well, then dig it up and have the mag well be empty.  I suspect that this gun was buried substantially less than 2 years.

Now, that being said, it's still a pretty cool video!

Quote from: antoinebugleboy on September 21, 2011, 06:28:05 AM

Of course I don't recommend you actually store your guns this way, but:

I don't buy that you could bury a gun for 2 years with nothing in the mag well, then dig it up and have the mag well be empty.  I suspect that this gun was buried substantially less than 2 years.

Now, that being said, it's still a pretty cool video!

 That Glock was buried pretty shallow. I wander what the average yearly precipitation out there in Militiaville is?

Those guys were all dressed up like they were about to attend a Tactical Mardi Gras.

Quote from: Tom_G on September 21, 2011, 12:11:49 PM

Quote from: antoinebugleboy on September 21, 2011, 06:28:05 AM

Of course I don't recommend you actually store your guns this way, but:

I don't buy that you could bury a gun for 2 years with nothing in the mag well, then dig it up and have the mag well be empty.  I suspect that this gun was buried substantially less than 2 years.

Now, that being said, it's still a pretty cool video!

 That Glock was buried pretty shallow. I wander what the average yearly precipitation out there in Militiaville is?

Those guys were all dressed up like they were about to attend a Tactical Mardi Gras.

I don't want anyone to flash me at *that* Mardi Gras.  I'm burying all my beads in the ocean.

Not understanding why anyone would want to bury a weapon for a later grab? If you are run out of there and expect to come back and get it later, what makes you think you will be able to?  Are you expecting to stash these weapon somewhere where they will not be found? Good luck. 

I could see this on the mainland, where you can actually own property that nobody will EVER go on. Here? Nope.

Keep you weapons and friends close, and  your enemies closer....

The idea is to have an alternate location for weapons and ammo if you're cut off (or to hide it from the governement). So people who cache items underground at their location (in their yard) are doing it wrong. It's supposed to be a reasonable distance from where you're normally at.

You're right about it working mostly in the mainland...The island is too small and you just never know when someone will start building something. When they developed the Waikele/Waipio area I had to hustle to get my crap out. While they were breaking ground on the regional park, I was off in the tall weeds swinging a pick and shovel. Now I only bury my overflow ammo supply. I'm like a squirrel with his nuts in that way.

I don't buy that you could bury a gun for 2 years with nothing in the mag well, then dig it up and have the mag well be empty.  I suspect that this gun was buried substantially less than 2 years.

Now, that being said, it's still a pretty cool video!

I was thinking the same. Since the area obviously snows and that Glock was buried well within the ground frost line, the condition doesn't match the claim of 2 years. I'm thinking they buried it 4-6 months at most.

Guess it really doesn't matter. All I'll say is those peope are "true believers". I doubt anyone here would do that and risk eating a broken slide.

Another legitimate reason for burying your weapons on your own property you reside, especially in a no-carry state like us, is if you happen to come upon your home in mid-robbery, mid-rape of your wife and/or daughter(s), mid-sodomizing of your 8 year old son and unconscious baby-sitter, mid-vandalizing, mid-vegetarian potluck, etc.

Now, when it comes to caching for governmental gun grab? It's hard as hell on the island, for sure. But, like the guy I talked to did, I'd probably go throw em in the ocean!! We'd have to assume that there will be a lot of digs/metal detecting/satellite/GPR scans in popular places like St. Louis Heights park, Tantalus lookout, Pali Hwy lookouts, other parks, etc. We'd hear on the news about how they're finding all these "domestic terrorist weapon caches" all over the island.

Then on the other hand....we are surrounded by this massive ass ocean in which only a relative few ever visit the sea floor.

Anyone up for a recreational night dive? 

I would personally do it closer to shore where no equipment is required, but they'd be looking there too.


Almost forgot

/tinfoilhat

Aren't there people that go diving with metal detectors? I thought I remember a story about someone finding quite a bit of stuff in the ocean using one.

Another legitimate reason for burying your weapons on your own property you reside, especially in a no-carry state like us, is if you happen to come upon your home in mid-robbery, mid-rape of your wife and/or daughter(s), mid-sodomizing of your 8 year old son and unconscious baby-sitter, mid-vandalizing, mid-vegetarian potluck, etc.

Now, when it comes to caching for governmental gun grab? It's hard as hell on the island, for sure. But, like the guy I talked to did, I'd probably go throw em in the ocean!! We'd have to assume that there will be a lot of digs/metal detecting/satellite/GPR scans in popular places like St. Louis Heights park, Tantalus lookout, Pali Hwy lookouts, other parks, etc. We'd hear on the news about how they're finding all these "domestic terrorist weapon caches" all over the island.

Then on the other hand....we are surrounded by this massive ass ocean in which only a relative few ever visit the sea floor.

Anyone up for a recreational night dive? 

I would personally do it closer to shore where no equipment is required, but they'd be looking there too.


Almost forgot

/tinfoilhat

If under attack (as in your examples), I'd most likely swing a shovel as a weapon rather than try to use it and dig one up. A cache is meant as long term storage/hiding, not a place to keep things you want to keep handy. That'd be a stash, which is something stored/hidden but still accessible...like a pistol in a holster mounted under a drawer or behind a picture frame.

You're right though, everyone is a treasure hunter these days. Burying a cache was a hell of a lot easier back when there were miles of sugar cane/pineapple fields.

Aren't there people that go diving with metal detectors? I thought I remember a story about someone finding quite a bit of stuff in the ocean using one.

Yep, like those idiots who stumbled over 60 year old ordnance.

If under attack (as in your examples), I'd most likely swing a shovel as a weapon rather than try to use it and dig one up. A cache is meant as long term storage/hiding, not a place to keep things you want to keep handy. That'd be a stash, which is something stored/hidden but still accessible...like a pistol in a holster mounted under a drawer or behind a picture frame.

I have to agree with Colt on this one.  Cache vs Stash.   It may be a bit of semantics but the logic is correct. 

That Glock was buried pretty shallow. I wander what the average yearly precipitation out there in Militiaville is?

Those guys were all dressed up like they were about to attend a Tactical Mardi Gras.

Not to re-open old wounds, but would you say they were....Fake Action Guys?
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