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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2013, 10:59:31 AM »
Believe what you want, but there is zero (0) data to support the doomsday predictions so far. All, yes ALL, of the graphics I've seen regarding the "plume" are actually NOAA images that either modeled the tsunami wave action through the Pacific or modeled the potential path of the tsunami debris. Not a single one is based on samples, data or anything having to do with radiation.

The Fukushima site itself is a horrible problem to be sure and we're far from being out of the woods there. But there is no radioactive plume that we know of - except in our imaginations and on the pages of oodles of "look at me! I get $$ from page hits!" alarmist "news" sites and the infoblogs that use them as "sources."

Bluefin Tuna is showing higher levels of radiation. I also heard that plankton is some places is, too. This IS a problem. Its not the end of the world, oh-my-god-the-fisheries-collapse-is-happening situation its being made out to be in the social media idiot storm.

I work with the scientists who keep track of this stuff and the biggest problem right now is that there is very little hard data being collected. The Pacific is HUGE and its very expensive to get any kind of indicative samples much less track that number of remote sampling sites over time. All we have are a few fish samples, models of ocean currents - which aren't particularly reliable - and the overactive imaginations of a public that still remembers the nuclear scare of the cold war.

Panic if you want. Its as good an imaginary reason to panic as the many others available to us. Just understand that the panic is based on nothing except hype generated in a vacuum of real information.

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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2013, 02:01:07 PM »
I see plenty of tunas in Waikiki, behind Pali longs, and hotel street.... they run wild throughout the islands but we can contain um, but i don't know what kine radioactive stuff they get!!

no mind my pigeon ah, :shaka:

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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2013, 03:05:43 PM »
aw this is no fun.  I going shopping.
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Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2013, 03:15:32 PM »
Clshade, thanks for the reassurance. It is great to know that seafood is not off the menu.

My nuclear physicist friend also said something similar to what you said... That one is more likely to die from mercury in the tuna than the tiny levels of radiation.  He said that the alarm about the nuclear contamination of the seafood in the ocean is currently a "mountain out of a molehill." 

I think maybe one just needs to keep an eye on the "molehills".
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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2013, 06:24:35 PM »
Comment: It is still leaking that’s all I know.
 
How safe is it?
 
I don't know, but ask those who say it is safe are they willing to eat the fish caught near the site and are they willing to visit the site with no protective gear?




http://enenews.com/fukushima-worst-nuclear-disaster-history-reveals-study-one-day-releases-japan-plant-100-quadrillion

Study: Fukushima released 100 quadrillion becquerels of cesium into atmosphere… In just ONE day — About equal to Chernobyl’s total release




http://enenews.com/nuclear-expert-melted-fuel-is-exiting-fukushima-site-its-being-dispersed-to-humans-a-long-way-from-plant-situation-is-beyond-mans-control-audio

* Published: September 2nd, 2013 at 7:30 pm ET

Nuclear Expert: Melted fuel is exiting Fukushima site — Very effective way of it being dispersed to humans far away from plant — Situation is beyond man’s control — 3 or 4 times Chernobyl’s radioactivity available for release
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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2013, 07:11:55 PM »
Fair & Balanced



http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/us/fukushima-tuna/index.html

Fukushima tuna study finds minuscule health risks

By Matt Smith, CNN   updated 10:06 AM EDT, Tue June 4, 2013


Levels of radioactivity found in Pacific bluefin tuna that spawned off Japan around the time of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident are far below anything that would pose a health risk and have dropped in fish caught the following year, U.S. researchers reported Monday.

The waters near the plant remain closed to fishing, and Japan has tightened its standards to keep any contaminated catch from reaching consumers.

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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2013, 07:32:11 PM »
Who to believe is telling the truth, who even knows it?  Communist News Network is not high on my list but I know nothing to begin with.

How about the NRA or Tepco itself.  And what they're saying is not good.  Gotta' love that guy saying there's a lot of water in between us.  Let' piss in his rain barrel and watch him drink it LOL  :D

http://preview.reuters.com/2013/8/5/fukushima-radioactive-water-likely-breached
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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2013, 04:59:44 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2013, 11:09:04 PM »
As serious as this is, I keep hoping that all this radiation will give me some kind of super powers.

Quenton,  knowledge is power. You have great knowledge so you have super power already  :thumbsup:

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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2013, 01:25:50 AM »
Some chitter chatter about talks between Japan and China for relocation efforts because if #4 goes it's domino time.  I think Peru would be better but no ways for the masses.  HI will be toast and HNL will be a clusterfk trying to get out of here but cross that bridge if we get there.  Brazil seems very nice and definitely out of the Northern Hemisphere ;)
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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2013, 01:26:47 AM »
If, and only if, everything goes *perfectly*, it can take up to 40 years to clean this mess up:

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-fuel-cleanup-operation-522/

A lot of good reading here too about the plant manager who just recently passed.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/10/fukushima-plant-boss-hero-dies?commentpage=1
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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2013, 01:34:07 AM »
Check this crazy fish out  :wtf:
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« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2013, 08:57:12 AM »
If, and only if, everything goes *perfectly*, it can take up to 40 years to clean this mess up:

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-fuel-cleanup-operation-522/

A lot of good reading here too about the plant manager who just recently passed.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/10/fukushima-plant-boss-hero-dies?commentpage=1

You really need some nuclear qualified friends :P to ease your concerns.

I literally have a friends list on FB full of guys who have studied nuclear power, run reactors, and work in the nuclear industry.  A few of them were event sent to do disaster response in Fukashima during the event.  When I see this guys post a "oh shit this is bad." I will let you know, but I haven't even seen one yet.
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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2013, 09:03:33 AM »
To add, something from this article: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/10/fukushima-plant-boss-hero-dies?commentpage=1

Let me put this into perspective, while in the Navy I wore a TLD (THERMOLUMINESCENCE DOSIMETRY), which is used to measure exposure. We have a maximum amount of REM that we could be exposed to.  This is a set limit, if you exceed, or would exceed that limit in a specific amount of time then you can't work in that area or go back.  Civilian companies are the same way; this is likely why they are saying that it's "too high to go back."  It might not be really high, but just high enough that you may exceed your allowable exposure limit during.  This is stuff that is broken down by the minute.  And the levels are low to begin with.

To illustrate the point:  If I took my TLD on a jet plane and flew to the mainland, I would exceed my allowable exposure for the year and would no longer be able to work.  So think about that.  If the levels are low enough, that just a flight on the plane would exceed my allowed exposure at work, what does that mean?
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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2013, 10:25:16 AM »
Yah - that it's always worse than what the government tells you?  :D

Some good recent footage here from our friends at
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/04/world/asia/japan-fukushima-crisis/index.html
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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2013, 10:39:23 AM »
yeah, i find it funny that people who don't want to take dental xrays will fly in planes or even go out in the sun for a few minutes
way more radiation than i could ever use, and i had the lead shield for them too

To add, something from this article: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/10/fukushima-plant-boss-hero-dies?commentpage=1

Let me put this into perspective, while in the Navy I wore a TLD (THERMOLUMINESCENCE DOSIMETRY), which is used to measure exposure. We have a maximum amount of REM that we could be exposed to.  This is a set limit, if you exceed, or would exceed that limit in a specific amount of time then you can't work in that area or go back.  Civilian companies are the same way; this is likely why they are saying that it's "too high to go back."  It might not be really high, but just high enough that you may exceed your allowable exposure limit during.  This is stuff that is broken down by the minute.  And the levels are low to begin with.

To illustrate the point:  If I took my TLD on a jet plane and flew to the mainland, I would exceed my allowable exposure for the year and would no longer be able to work.  So think about that.  If the levels are low enough, that just a flight on the plane would exceed my allowed exposure at work, what does that mean?

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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2013, 10:46:06 AM »
I find it funny that the TSA are standing next to those backscatter and xray machines hour after hour, day in and day out, month after month after month.  Reality is going to bite them hard in the future.

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Re: Every bluefin tuna caught off California tested positive for radioactivity
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2013, 10:47:03 AM »
You really need some nuclear qualified friends :P to ease your concerns.

I literally have a friends list on FB full of guys who have studied nuclear power, run reactors, and work in the nuclear industry.  A few of them were event sent to do disaster response in Fukashima during the event.  When I see this guys post a "oh shit this is bad." I will let you know, but I haven't even seen one yet.


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