Can we clean our guns in an open garage? (Read 27896 times)

one2boost

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2013, 04:55:36 PM »
If the cops do get called, what are they gonna do?  From what I have seen, all they will just try to talk you into not doing whatever, open carry on your property, clean your guns out in your own garage, etc...  Granted, one has to refrain from communicating a threat and whatnot. 

Like the rest, I prefer to keep a low profile.
 
But if a neighbor wants to be an ass about it, I would just get this sign and post it in my yard.



splice21

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2013, 04:59:10 PM »
If the cops do get called, what are they gonna do?  From what I have seen, all they will just try to talk you into not doing whatever, open carry on your property, clean your guns out in your own garage, etc...  Granted, one has to refrain from communicating a threat and whatnot. 

Like the rest, I prefer to keep a low profile.
 
But if a neighbor wants to be an ass about it, I would just get this sign and post it in my yard.




I need one of those!

808gmac

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2013, 09:38:55 PM »
I always keep a low profile. Neighbors don't need to know what I have and I don't want to be a target for theft or a person of interest

+1

808gmac

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2013, 09:40:06 PM »
If the cops do get called, what are they gonna do?  From what I have seen, all they will just try to talk you into not doing whatever, open carry on your property, clean your guns out in your own garage, etc...  Granted, one has to refrain from communicating a threat and whatnot. 

Like the rest, I prefer to keep a low profile.
 
But if a neighbor wants to be an ass about it, I would just get this sign and post it in my yard.



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xer 21

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2013, 01:01:53 AM »
#1 - why do you want just anybody walking by the property to see what kind & how many guns you own while cleaning?


ren

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2013, 08:29:17 AM »
Hmm, maybe it's best to take up a table at the range and clean my guns there.  >:D
Its not illegal and I dont think theres anything wrong with that. Ironic that we cry about more gun regs but we want to regulate what shooters do at the range?! Like I said get rid of the benches. Want one? Bring your own. Ive seen a few benchrest shooters. Besidea when do you "train" off a bench anyways.
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new guy

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2013, 11:01:35 AM »
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Funtimes

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2013, 02:36:38 PM »
....you can carry loaded firearms on your property.......that was the result of DC v. Heller

I would try, and highly encourage you, to re-read that opinion. I have not seen anything that says home is the same as property.   Cops can walk all day "in" your property, but not in your home.  There is a fairly substantial difference. 


Something to think about for those "carrying" outside the home without a permit:

1.) Are you absolutely sure that you are not in violation of the Federal Gun Free School Zones act?
2.) Are you absolutely sure that two California cases have not affected your ability to carry or the definitions of what is considered public property in terms of the GFSZ?

Something to think about for carrying with a permit, but with reciprocity:

1.) Are you exempt from GFSZ laws? Or does the permit require it to be from the State that you are currently in.

I would encourage some of you to go research the Thesus case (you can find a bit of information on Calguns.net), as it has some direct implications on GFSZ type stuff, even if it is out of CA.

For instance, if you were in CA and opened your garage while carrying a firearm, the garage would now be considered public property.  The lack of a fence surrounding your property would make the entire property fall under the public footage calculation.
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ButtNutt

Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2013, 06:28:14 PM »
I would try, and highly encourage you, to re-read that opinion. I have not seen anything that says home is the same as property.   Cops can walk all day "in" your property, but not in your home.  There is a fairly substantial difference. 


Something to think about for those "carrying" outside the home without a permit:

1.) Are you absolutely sure that you are not in violation of the Federal Gun Free School Zones act?
2.) Are you absolutely sure that two California cases have not affected your ability to carry or the definitions of what is considered public property in terms of the GFSZ?

Something to think about for carrying with a permit, but with reciprocity:

1.) Are you exempt from GFSZ laws? Or does the permit require it to be from the State that you are currently in.

I would encourage some of you to go research the Thesus case (you can find a bit of information on Calguns.net), as it has some direct implications on GFSZ type stuff, even if it is out of CA.

For instance, if you were in CA and opened your garage while carrying a firearm, the garage would now be considered public property.  The lack of a fence surrounding your property would make the entire property fall under the public footage calculation.
....good points, but of course I was answering the question in a general sense.  I wouldn't expect someone to think - by my omission of THAT or ANY caveat - that i was stating it would be ok to carry a firearm on one's property while also in violation of a GFZ or other prohibition; nor would I expect the reader to not be wise enough to know THAT particular, and all other limitations and exclusions of a law or policy.












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Funtimes

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2013, 08:33:57 PM »
It was just a general statement as a I know some people do carry and say it's ok.

Some may not even know these things exist!
CA is good as screwing things up with crazy shit too lol.
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808gmac

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2013, 11:18:35 AM »
One is not guilty unless proven otherwise in a court, and found guilty with conviction.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2013, 11:21:57 AM »
One is not guilty unless proven otherwise in a court, and found guilty with conviction.

Unless you happen to be a white-hispanic with a last name that sounds Jewish protecting yourself against a black teen ...
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

808gmac

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2013, 11:27:57 AM »
Unless you happen to be a white-hispanic with a last name that sounds Jewish protecting yourself against a black teen ...

See...He was found not guilty.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2013, 12:16:24 PM »
See...He was found not guilty.

In the media and according to millions of sheeple, he is guilty of murder IN SPITE of the verdict.  That's why his "story" regarding a 911 call where he supposedly punched his father-in-law and threatened his soon-to-be-ex-wife with a gun was front page news, while the REAL story (none of that happened, and SHE was the aggressor) hasn't had near the air time.

Every time he gets a speeding ticket, he's in the news, and the fact he is carrying concealed continues to be a major fact stated in the articles.

He's being treated by society as a criminal, even though the evidence and jurors agree he is innocent.

The question becomes, can you be truly found innocent in court if the public and media continue to stalk you as if you were guilty?  He's being punished every day of his life, so where does the "innocent until proven guilty" part have any bearing?
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

aieahound

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2013, 12:39:59 PM »
Zimmerman is being treated like a celebrity, (eg. Lindsey Lohan etc. )
Ever watch TMZ ?

And he's dumb enough to publicly tour a gun factory and get into a filmed altercation with his soon-to-be-ex wife while his 15 minutes are still rolling.

while the REAL story (none of that happened, and SHE was the aggressor) hasn't had near the air time.

I didn't know you were there ? Cool.
What really happened ?  Tell us.

Sorry for the snide remark, but that almost seems to be your MO in a lot of your responses on this forum Darmok. 

You do post some quality posts, but IMO some of your responses need to be tempered.

Fact is Zimmerman's not in prison getting rides on the baloney pony for the rest of his life.
And fact is also it probably has lot to do with he is a white-hispanic with a last name that sounds Jewish protecting himself against a black teen ...

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #55 on: September 16, 2013, 09:26:03 PM »
Zimmerman is being treated like a celebrity, (eg. Lindsey Lohan etc. )
Ever watch TMZ ?

And he's dumb enough to publicly tour a gun factory and get into a filmed altercation with his soon-to-be-ex wife while his 15 minutes are still rolling.

I didn't know you were there ? Cool.
What really happened ?  Tell us.

Sorry for the snide remark, but that almost seems to be your MO in a lot of your responses on this forum Darmok. 

You do post some quality posts, but IMO some of your responses need to be tempered.

Fact is Zimmerman's not in prison getting rides on the baloney pony for the rest of his life.
And fact is also it probably has lot to do with he is a white-hispanic with a last name that sounds Jewish protecting himself against a black teen ...

Criticizing me and the style of my posts?  Really?  If you feel bad about the way I write, that's your problem ... not mine.  Would you like me to call you a Wahmbulance?

I don't have the time (or desire) to gently wordsmith my posts just to make them politically or socially correct according to somebody's liking.  I learned long ago you can't please everyone, so why try?

I have an opinion about many of the comments made here.  I enjoy playing devil's advocate.  Not to be contrary or argumentative, but to initiate a discussion of the underlying thoughts and facts that caused the commenter to come to the conclusion they stated.  It's interesting and thought provoking to take a person's position on an issue and see whether they have thought it thoroughly through.

If you don't like that, then you don't like it.  That doesn't mean I should be careful of hurting your feelings, or anyone else's.  How many times do people state here, the forum is a place to freely discuss issues and exchange ideas?  You think I should temper my responses?  Right!

And I'd be glad to discuss the way Lindsey Lohan has been unjustly demonized by the media, and how she was labeled a racist, and how her acquittals represented a miscarriage of justice to the point where Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and President Obama all felt the need to make public comments against the jury, the state of Florida, and stand your ground laws.  How many times have you heard the US Attorney General, Eric Holder, comment on Lindsey Lohen's arrests? 

The Zimmerman trial should have never happened.  His life will never be the same.  The government knew there was no hate crime nor racism on Zimmerman's behalf, but they forced Florida to prosecute in spite of the facts.

Saying he and Lohan are both celebrities is a completely skewed comparison. 
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis

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Kingkeoni

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2013, 04:23:44 AM »
Hey Darmok, just wondering, what was your other forum name before you created this one?
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Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra

Re: Can we clean our guns in an open garage?
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2013, 08:49:15 AM »
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Hey Darmok, just wondering, what was your other forum name before you created this one?
"... the right to be let alone -- the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men."
--Justice Louis D. Brandeis