How far out u gotta be? Is it legal?

How far out u gotta be? Is it legal?

I don't see why not, who the hell would stop you?  I've actually never seen a cop boat before, do they exist?  either way, if you are stupid enough to get caught, you deserve to never own guns again!  just go out far enough so you don't see any other boats and you'll be fine!

What you plan on shooting?

I don't see why not, who the hell would stop you?  I've actually never seen a cop boat before, do they exist?  either way, if you are stupid enough to get caught, you deserve to never own guns again!  just go out far enough so you don't see any other boats and you'll be fine!

Another bit of horrible advice from Sliver.

A) "Cop boats" are called coast guard. They do exist.

B) If you decide to follow Slivers advice, take him with you.




I thought that anytime you carried a firearm on a boat in state waters ( of whatever state you're in) that state law applied.

Discharging that firearm is another story.

Also it is probably illegal to transport your firearm to your boat unless it is one you can sleep in, your a business fisherman, or transporting to another island.  Or hunting fish with your gun.

provided that it shall be lawful to carry unloaded firearms in an enclosed container from the place of purchase to the purchaser's place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places upon change of place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places and the following:

     (1)  A place of repair;
     (2)  A target range;
     (3)  A licensed dealer's place of business;
     (4)  An organized, scheduled firearms show or exhibit;
     (5)  A place of formal hunter or firearm use training or instruction; or
     (6)  A police station.

I think you would have to be in international waters for you do that., which is, I think, 200 miles.

Are you that desperate to fire a few rounds? 200 miles is quite a slog.

Also it is probably illegal to transport your firearm to your boat unless it is one you can sleep in, your a business fisherman, or transporting to another island.  Or hunting fish with your gun.

provided that it shall be lawful to carry unloaded firearms in an enclosed container from the place of purchase to the purchaser's place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places upon change of place of business, residence, or sojourn, or between these places and the following:

     (1)  A place of repair;
     (2)  A target range;
     (3)  A licensed dealer's place of business;
     (4)  An organized, scheduled firearms show or exhibit;
     (5)  A place of formal hunter or firearm use training or instruction; or
     (6)  A police station.

Do empty beer bottles thrown in the air count?   

Territorial waters only extend to 12nm from land.  The 200 miles you're thinking of the exclusive economic zone.  If you're outside of 12nm you'd certainly be good to go (because then you're not in America any more), the only question is whether or not you'd get in any kind of trouble for transporting to the marina and through the 12nm zone.  After typing that last parenthetical, it makes me want to sit down and have a good cry.  Things have deteriorated to the point where leaving the United States is an attractive option for people wanting to exercise a right supposedly enshrined in our Constitution.

Aren't there some limitations under the international maritime laws about that?

I seem to recall several discussions on that in regard to the Somali Pirate raids, where I think it came out that firearms to defend yourself and your boat weren't allowed aboard seagoing vessels.

But since I'm totally landbound here in Colorado, I really did not pay that much attention.  I was more interested in the videos of "official" armed responses to pirate attacks.



Terry

In territorial waters you have to abide by the country's rules. Outside of that you can have armed guards and many merchants there now do. Makes which ports you can visit tricky. Some have lockers if the country allows or they may even toss their weapons overboard.

US law specifically allows for self defense. No clue if it's legal to shoot in Hawaii territorial waters (probably not). In international waters it wouldn't matter.

Firearm laws pertain to both land and seas within the States boarders. Your boat is just another vehicle the SAME as your car. HRS 134 (place to keep).
Hawaii Territorial waters extend to 12NM. Within 12NM it must be cased and unloaded the same as going to the range...passing 12NM it is NOT Hawaiian waters but US laws still apply.  Free range to shoot !!!!!!!


Such as Florida.... where CCW is allowed one can carry loaded firearms and shoot within the 12NM area.
A boat cannot have hidden compartments, thus the Coast Guard will ask about firearms prior to boarding. They'll ask about the location of the firearms and holster your sidearms. 


YES WE DO CARRY AND SHOOT AT SEA IN FLORIDA !!!!



BTW Obama sign the following law.

Section 912: Use of Force Against Piracy

Removes liability for monetary damages for injury or death caused by the use of force to defend a U.S.-flag vessel against acts of piracy if the force was used consistent with "Standard Rules for the Use of Force for Self-Defense of Vessels of the United States" to be promulgated within 180 days of enactment.

Firearm laws pertain to both land and seas within the States boarders. Your boat is just another vehicle the SAME as your car. HRS 134 (place to keep).
Hawaii Territorial waters extend to 12NM. Within 12NM it must be cased and unloaded the same as going to the range...passing 12NM it is NOT Hawaiian waters but US laws still apply.  Free range to shoot !!!!!!!

State jurisdiction is 3 nm, federal is 12. I don't imagine the CG would care as long as you're not causing a navigation/safety hazard.

I guess you could shoot trap? Seems like a lot of hassle though.

Another bit of horrible advice from Sliver.

A) "Cop boats" are called coast guard. They do exist.

B) If you decide to follow Slivers advice, take him with you.




I thought that anytime you carried a firearm on a boat in state waters ( of whatever state you're in) that state law applied.

Discharging that firearm is another story.

Hate agreeing with KK, but a lot of bad advice comes from asking these "Is it legal" type questions.  For some odd reason, there's always a few who chime in like experts on a subject just because they can google s#it.

And no, I'm not singling out Silver or anyone else...just pointing out a sad fact about forum mentality.

How far out u gotta be? Is it legal?

You'll get a proper and correct answer by asking the right people. Call the DLNR and/or Coast Guard. Ask them to cite the specific laws and regulations that apply, along with the boundaries for each agency or if there is anything else you should consider. Be smart, do the research and cover your butt.