You could ask him if he has a filming permit.

http://filmoffice.hawaii.gov/film-permitting/

I take offense to this whole deal since the investigation is still pending and we are being blatantly targeted by those who don't want the range there due to their own misdirected, personal bias (i.e. cat giggolo Knudsen). I think we are at the losing end as I see it - being devil's advocate. Kokohead area is being used by others such as the hikers and paragliders. Yes, there was a paraglider above the range today. If the range is soooo dangerous why hike and paraglide to the side and in front of a live range? All we need is one idiot who pops up in front of the range and gets hurt - then the range most likely will be shut down as a result of some person illegally using the trail or doing some kind of airborne antic above a live range.
Another issue to look out for is that company seeking a permit to operate a zip line from the top of Kokohead along the illegal trail. I haven't heard anything about it yet, but one can only imagine what that might mean for the range.
We need a concentrated show of force behind the existence of the range.

Warning Sign ?
What warning sign?

Look ! I can see the firing range from here !

You could ask him if he has a filming permit.

http://filmoffice.hawaii.gov/film-permitting/

Nice 

You could ask him if he has a filming permit.

http://filmoffice.hawaii.gov/film-permitting/

That sounds kinda BS.  You have a 1st Amendment right to film anything at any public place.  Requiring a permit infringes on another right.

Greg Knudsen is a former spokesman for the Hawaii Department of Education. He was notoriously lazy and unresponsive but clung to the job because his wife was the chairwoman of the Board of Education. He was in Chuuk, Micronesia, for the Peace Corps in the mid-1970s. He is a Common Cause member. He likes photographing flowers and animals: http://www.pixoto.com/gregknudsen  He ran for the state house in 2000 and lost. Loathes the mlitary unless it's politically expedient. Typical '60s idealist who settled in Hawaii and knows deep down inside that he is a smarter, better human being than you and me. He's baffled that people disagree with him.

Will take your photo  without telling you because he knows he's within the law and doesn't have to be courteous with gun-toting untermenchen. But he will cry to the cops and lawyers if you confront him. So don't.

The city's Neighborhood Boards don't have decision-making power, but do have the ability to bring attention to issues and they are funded by the city and county of Honolulu, with our taxes. The boards generally draw little public participation, but can be a springboard for the politically ambitious.  In elections earlier this year, Knudsen was re-elected to the Hawaii Kai board, with 1,443 votes, more than any other candidate for an at-large seat. His term is two years long. Hawaii Kai can do better in 2015.

I can see this guy has an agenda and probably will run for office later or sooner

he has some bullshit accolades like peacecorps and being a prez of the neighborhood board

Someone should make a t-shirt "Knudsen's Magic Bullets" for as many people as possible to wear when he comes to take pictures. It would be kind of funny when he goes to present them as evidence.

Knudsens Magic Bullets:
Defying The Laws Of Physics Since 2012

Knudsens Magic Bullets:
Unstoppable At Any Range

Knudsens Magic Bullets:
Conveniently Find Them At a Location Near You

Knudsens Magic Bullets:
Improve Your Accuracy With Our Repositioning Technology

    I would buy one of each!  Almost as good an idea as the 2014 X-Ring girl calendar.

Quite a few people have said that Knudsen doesnt want to shutter the range but isnt this how things start?

If Knudnuts takes your picture and doesn't obtain a signed release from you, he may wind up violating publicity laws (not the same as privacy laws).  Basically, he can not use your likeness to promote a product, service, or idea without your permission, even if the photo is taken in public.

For instance, if your photo is shown in an ad or presentation for stricter gun laws or range rules, you are now associated with the idea he is promoting.  Just like a Republican's picture taken in a public park can not then be used in a Democrat ad without permission.  You are not required to have your image be used to further another's cause without consent.  If you are not doing anything illegal or newsworthy, you have a say in how your likeness gets used.

So, if anyone's faces are made public to support his quest to close or restrict range activities, you may have cause for damages.

Why not post his photos all over the advertisement boards at the range with the words "Anti-2a asshole"?

Someone should make a t-shirt "Knudsen's Magic Bullets" for as many people as possible to wear when he comes to take pictures. It would be kind of funny when he goes to present them as evidence.

Knudsens Magic Bullets:
Defying The Laws Of Physics Since 2012

Knudsens Magic Bullets:
Unstoppable At Any Range

Knudsens Magic Bullets:
Conveniently Find Them At a Location Near You

Knudsens Magic Bullets:
Improve Your Accuracy With Our Repositioning Technology

OOOH, OOOH, I GOT ONE!!

"If you like your range, you can keep your range.  Period."
-Greg Knudesen

 

^^^This.
/thread

Knudesen said at the Board Meeting that it would only take a rifle raised around 20 degrees to clear Koko Crater.   Do the math,  it would take over 50 degrees elevation to clear the crater.  Plus if you add ballistics to this it gets even higher!

According to this article Knudsen stated that in favor of keeping the trail open, Knudsen responded: "The only way someone on the trail is endangered is if someone intentionally aimed a firearm at people on the trail. They are under very strict safety provisions at the range."
But he reverses his stance in his next sentence.
"If there's danger, it raises serious questions about having a firing range in a residential area. Those bullets that supposedly reach the trail could be continuing onward to residences. Maybe it's time to ask about relocation of the firing range," said Knudsen.
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2008/02/16/news/story06.html

So based on his statements, I can see that Knucklehead Knudsen doesn't want the range in HK. So despite what he tells people that "WE" can have our range he really wants it shuttered at Kokohead.

+1

.

Did anyone check to see what the date and time he claimed the bullet came in his window?  I wonder if it was during shooting hours at the range.  Just might want to look into that to make sure he is at least claiming that this happened while the range was actually hot. 

It was around 9:30 in the morning on a sat or sunday according to the khon2 news report.

It was around 9:30 in the morning on a sat or sunday according to the khon2 news report.

from the hawaii rifleman
nov 2013
article by dr max cooper
sunday october 27, 2013
subsequently examined by khsc staff
"the bullet was .30 caliber and appeared scuffed"
"there are 2 other separate .30 caliber recovery incidents from the area"
"fallen hanging  metal targets propped at an angle are implicated"

my additional comment
.30 caliber can be .308. 30-30. or any of the 7.62 rounds, so determining what type of gun it was fired from would be difficult
from other reports, the time was 9:30 am

Knudesen said at the Board Meeting that it would only take a rifle raised around 20 degrees to clear Koko Crater.   Do the math,  it would take over 50 degrees elevation to clear the crater.  Plus if you add ballistics to this it gets even higher!

I apologize if this has been covered already, I am not as politically active as I would like to be on 2a matters. 

Yes, Knudsen is anti-gun, maybe he wants to see the range shut down.  I think that getting upset at the guy is a waste of time.  Since he has some political clout (HK Board), why don't we try to propose improvements at the range that would satisfy his concerns?  Maybe we could even get him partially on our side if improvements in range design are made.  I've attached two pictures of shooting ranges on the mainland where there are safety measures to prevent a projectile from leaving the range at an unwanted angle.

One is to put up horizontal wood barricades down range towards the targets that keep bullets at an OK angle.  Second is to place each shooter at the opening of a large  "Cylinder" which again restricts departure angle. 

I know that getting any money put into the range is a long-shot, but maybe right now is a good opportunity.  We may have a couple factors in our favor such as a supportive mayor, and a neighborhood board that wants to address recent safety concerns.