Anybody cast bullets? (Read 65634 times)

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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2012, 09:06:35 AM »
Very nice Video!!  Very beautiful work on the cast lead! 

Only thing your title may attract all kinds of environmentalist wackkos to you vid...  LOL

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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2012, 01:36:17 PM »
You guys will be the first to be visited by the ATF Firearms Confisation Dept in the future. 
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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2012, 02:36:09 PM »
You guys will be the first to be visited by the ATF Firearms Confisation Dept in the future. 
 ;)
Just call me paranoid!
You are, now get the fuck out of this thread.
Great video :thumbsup: Since I started shooting bullseye pistol I always wondered how involved it was to cast bullets. Thanks for the insight.
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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2012, 02:57:21 PM »
You guys will be the first to be visited by the ATF Firearms Confisation Dept in the future. 
 ;)

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I'm paranoid too. I just try to not let it dictate my life and consume the dwindling brain cells.
BTW-I WAS visited many years ago by a city and county inspector  asking about the lead melting. I told him it was fishing lead and he just laughed and left.
They can have my sinkers when they pry it from my cold dead fish.  :D
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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2012, 11:44:50 PM »
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They can have my sinkers when they pry it from my cold dead fish.  :D

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Well said
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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2012, 11:48:15 PM »
You are, now get the fuck out of this thread.

Gee what language. Rudeness.
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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2013, 01:16:33 AM »
Gee what language. Rudeness.
I wasn't the one who came in here and stomped on this thread about your irrelevant, baseless, confiscation bullshit.
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Mr. Farknocker

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2013, 10:51:57 AM »
Just got into reloading rifle ammo and made my first batch of .270 using Sierra Matchkings. I had a blast learning the process and am still learning. Now I'm looking at casting bullets.  From what I know (and that ain't much), it looks like the process of casting is, with limited exception, for pistol ammo only due to a limitation on the lead bullets ability to maintain its shape when fired out of a rifle. Does anybody cast bullets for rifle ammo?
« Last Edit: March 06, 2013, 01:37:38 PM by Mr. Farknocker »

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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #48 on: April 07, 2013, 11:24:10 PM »
Just got into it and its pretty fun and interesting...
Cheap supplies....Savers cast iron pot, muffin pans,  couple stainless ladles , a 1000w open coil range stove fRom citymill..20.00...once u buy bullet sizers, molds, it'll last a while I imagine...lee molds have worked great for me...and just be safe and use common sense..

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Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2013, 12:31:30 AM »
Just got into it and its pretty fun and interesting...
Cheap supplies....Savers cast iron pot, muffin pans,  couple stainless ladles , a 1000w open coil range stove fRom citymill..20.00...once u buy bullet sizers, molds, it'll last a while I imagine...lee molds have worked great for me...and just be safe and use common sense..
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Welcome to the "club". You no longer have to worry about a supply of bullets.
There aren't many people who cast bullets any more. The old timers that I learned from have passed away. :(
I love the LEE molds. But the best bullets I make come from SAECO or H&G molds.
For normal practice ammo I only use the LEE bullets from a pair of 6 cav molds. They are not the most accurate, but they are OK.
I also blend my own custom formula bullet lube. Did you check out the home video previously posted?
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oldfart

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2014, 07:17:25 AM »
Nice vid!

What sort of mold were you using? I only have Lee molds. Not the best but inexpensive and cheap to replace. The 2 bullet TL356-124-RN (9mm) crapped out on me after about a thousand rounds when the alignment pins fell out. I tried to drill and thread a screw stop hole but ended up breaking the threading tap in the hole. The alignment-pin-falling-out problem was exacerbated by my striking the sprue plate handle with a wooden stick covered with rubber. If I had to do it again, I would use a gloved hand to open the sprue instead. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a thousand raps on an aluminum mold is not good. I ended up buying a 6-bullet SWC instead of buying another RN mold because I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy of the round.  I opted for the traditional lube groove design just so that I could justify fussing with wax and bullet lubes.

I also picked up an excellent pointer on youtube that made the first drop easier on a 6 banger. If you preheat the sprue plate with a butane torch before pouring  your first batch, cutting the sprue is easy. I broke a brand new sprue lever on my first pull before learning that trick.

I tried water quenching and throwing the bullets onto a damp towel before going back to water quenching. I've read articles that talked about water quenching as having no effect on the hardness of the lead so I'm not exactly sold on quenching for that purpose but discovered that by water quenching, you avoid dinging up the bullets when you drop them from the mold.  Apparently, the lead is still too soft when you release them from the mold. Water quenching them hardens them quickly and avoids the problem altogether.

Bees wax...after posting my question about BW, I was given about 8 lbs of the stuff from a friend who bought it in another country. I'll have to mix up a batch just to see how it compares against my mixture of parafin and petroleum jelly (60/40).
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Well, I use a pair of 6 cav. Lee molds in 45-200 SWC. Alternating while casting to allow sufficient cooling time. Those aluminum molds get hot and frosty quick!
The 2 molds that I have are ever-so-slightly different, as one of them was new and the other a used gun show find. So I drop onto separate collection boxes.
You started out in much the same way that I did some 30+ years ago. I used a LEE 2 cav. 45-228 RN mold. But that bullet was not so accurate.
Over the years, I used Saeco molds which are wonderful. Then I found an H&G #68/ 6 cav mold. That mold throws great bullets, but it is an endangered species. So I stopped using it.
I always liked the casting qualities of aluminum, so when LEE introduced the 6 cav production molds, I jumped on it. They are cheap and repair parts are easy.
I also liked the cammed sprue cutter.
I used to subscribe to the "harder-is-better" philosophy, but it seems that is not the greatest idea in my case. I used to water quench the bullets and my tests showed that water does make the
alloy harder. But in order to achieve the increased hardness, you need to have a few percent antimony in your mix, or it won't work.
In recent years, commercial casters have started to soften their alloys with the reason being that the bullet would upset better and provide superior bore obturation.
So I stopped adding so much lino and stopped quenching too. FYI, the bullet continues to harden post-cast regardless of quenching. It takes about 3 weeks to stabilize.
So the hot tip is to size the bullet as soon as possible while it is still soft.
Now with the alloy being a little softer I do notice a little increase in accuracy. The only thing I worry about is meplat deformation as the bullet slams the feed ramp.
I suppose a hard alloy would have less deformation, but I do not know if it makes much difference in the 45.
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oldfart

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2017, 08:18:30 AM »
Reviving this thread because I have not cast bullets in a couple years.
I need to resupply myself now so I have to ask if anyone would like to participate as an educational activity.
Warning....My schedule is not too flexible.

I'm going outside now to check the equipment and clean stuff up.
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Inspector

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2017, 08:31:17 AM »
Reviving this thread because I have not cast bullets in a couple years.
I need to resupply myself now so I have to ask if anyone would like to participate as an educational activity.
Warning....My schedule is not too flexible.

I'm going outside now to check the equipment and clean stuff up.
I would love to learn to cast boolits. Old Mose and I tried to get together a while back and our schedules conflicted too much. He was going show me the fine art of casting. Chances are our schedules will conflict as well.  :( :( :(
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oldfart

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2017, 08:48:49 AM »
I would love to learn to cast boolits. Old Mose and I tried to get together a while back and our schedules conflicted too much. He was going show me the fine art of casting. Chances are our schedules will conflict as well.  :( :( :(
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Maybe next Sunday or Monday
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Inspector

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2017, 09:27:51 AM »
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Maybe next Sunday or Monday
Can only make it Sunday afternoon from 2pm to 4pm. Sorry.
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oldfart

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2017, 09:44:55 AM »
Can only make it Sunday afternoon from 2pm to 4pm. Sorry.
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How about today?
Everything looked good and the weather is ideal so I started.
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Inspector

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2017, 09:46:38 AM »
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How about today?
Everything looked good and the weather is ideal so I started.
At work.
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oldfart

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2017, 10:12:03 AM »
At work.
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How about after? I will finish this batch soon.
I can do another batch later. ...afternoon
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OldMose

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2017, 11:57:48 AM »
I would love to learn to cast boolits. Old Mose and I tried to get together a while back and our schedules conflicted too much. He was going show me the fine art of casting. Chances are our schedules will conflict as well.  :( :( :(

Ya, sorry 'bout that.  Hard to schedule when you need a sunny day, block of uninterrupted
time and cast when no ones home (smell bothers the family).  We'll get there.  Meanwhile,
imho, you might want to start collecting stuff as time and finances allow.   Start collecting
lead.   Look for a deal on a good pot like the rcbs pro melt.   Agree with OldFart on Saeco
and HG molds; so if you see a deal...   



 

Inspector

Re: Anybody cast bullets?
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2017, 12:02:57 PM »
Ya, sorry 'bout that.  Hard to schedule when you need a sunny day, block of uninterrupted
time and cast when no ones home (smell bothers the family).  We'll get there.  Meanwhile,
imho, you might want to start collecting stuff as time and finances allow.   Start collecting
lead.   Look for a deal on a good pot like the rcbs pro melt.   Agree with OldFart on Saeco
and HG molds; so if you see a deal...
Thanks! Will do.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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