I was wondering how many people are turning their ar15's in to pistols now that the rifle range is close?  A nice 7.5 inch barrel upper and a pistol buffer tube should make for some fun for the pistol side so at least you get to use your guns rather then have them sit at home.

I don't think that is legal....

and you talk about me spreading misinformation sliver?  SMH. 

sliver just spent what few credibility points he had left in his account!

                                                                     

and you talk about me spreading misinformation sliver?  SMH.

DNFTT

OMG

Just remember to weld up those magazines...

Just remember to weld up those magazines...

you can just buy 10 round mags can't you? 


I haven't seen any info about ar-15 pistols for Hawaii to be honest. 
what are the laws on ar-15 and ak47 pistols for Hawaii? 

sliver = Knudsen?
He's trying to lure us into doing something illegal and then taking pics of it!

Just remember to weld up those magazines...

... and the "weapon-made-from-a-rifle" tax stamp!

... and the "weapon-made-from-a-rifle" tax stamp!

what happens when you build it from a lower which was never regged as a rifle?  the topic of  these guns never came up in the pistol course I took.  Figured that nfa rules for Short-barreled rifle applied to Hawaii.  no stock=not a rifle. 

what happens when you build it from a lower which was never regged as a rifle?  the topic of  these guns never came up in the pistol course I took.

On the mainland, it would be fine. Here in Hawaii, I wonder if how you originally registered the receiver with HPD (i.e. as a rifle or pistol) would make a difference.

or you could use your handguns at the pistol range.   

I haven't seen any info about ar-15 pistols for Hawaii to be honest. 
what are the laws on ar-15 and ak47 pistols for Hawaii?

Check out HRS134 here: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/

In particular, the section pertaining to prohibited "Assault Pistols":

"Assault pistol" means a semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics:

     (1)  An ammunition magazine which attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

     (2)  A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward hand grip, or silencer;

     (3)  A shroud which is attached to or partially or completely encircles the barrel and which permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the second hand without being burned;

     (4)  A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;

     (5)  A centerfire pistol with an overall length of twelve inches or more; or

     (6)  It is a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm;

but does not include a firearm with a barrel sixteen or more inches in length, an antique pistol as defined in this section or a curio or relic as those terms are used in 18 United States Code §921(16) or 27 Code of Federal Regulations 178.11.

Good info Clature,  but I think Sliver was thinking of taking his not registered, completely illegal anyway gun to the range.   

what happens when you build it from a lower which was never regged as a rifle? 

Good info Clature,  but I think Sliver was thinking of taking his not registered, completely illegal anyway gun to the range.   

watch out, hound
he's gonna go off on you and explain how real life and how the internet works
and threaten to do homosexual acts upon you

once again, DNFTT

what happens when you build it from a lower which was never regged as a rifle?  the topic of  these guns never came up in the pistol course I took.  Figured that nfa rules for Short-barreled rifle applied to Hawaii.  no stock=not a rifle.

All AR-15 lowers are required to be registered upon transfer of ownership as a rifle in the same manner as a complete rifle, with the exception of lowers not at least 80% machined.

If you have "a lower which was never regged as a rifle", then you have already broken the law, again as long as it is 80% or more complete. 

If you've decided to break that law, then the rest are negotiable as well, I guess.

 

I don't think that is legal....

With a fixed magazine it should be.

On the mainland, it would be fine. Here in Hawaii, I wonder if how you originally registered the receiver with HPD (i.e. as a rifle or pistol) would make a difference.

Well, there isn't really a definition for a rifle - only a pistol.  And it only says that firearms must be registered.. If you welded the magazine to the lower and had a true fixed magazine it wouldn't be an assault pistol since there is no detachable magazine.

You can also do single shot AR-15 pistols that have a sled in them instead of a magazine.