http://khon2.com/2014/01/28/shots-fired-at-roosevelt-high-school/

So far it sounds like nobody died, and that's a good thing.

Just saw this on Fox. Changed it to CNN and sure enough them too. The media just eats this stuff up.

Anyone want to take a gander what Piers is going to talk about tonight? 

GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES ACT OF 1990.
<< 18 USCA § 921 NOTE >>
(a) SHORT TITLE.--This section may be cited as the "Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990".
(b) PROHIBITIONS AGAINST POSSESSION OR DISCHARGE OF A FIREARM IN A SCHOOL ZONE.--
<< 18 USCA § 922 >>
(1) IN GENERAL.--Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:
"(q)(1)(A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
"(B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to the possession of a firearm--
"(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
"(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school
zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political
subdivision requires that, before an individual obtain such a license, the law enforcement
authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to
receive the license;
"(iii) which is--
"(I) not loaded; and
"(II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack which is on a motor
(Publication page references are not available for this document.)
vehicle;
"(iv) by an individual for use in a program approved by a school in the school zone;
"(v) by an individual in accordance with a contract entered into between a school in the school
zone and the individual or an employer of the individual;
"(vi) by a law enforcement officer acting in his or her official capacity; or
"(vii) that is unloaded and is possessed by an individual while traversing school premises for the
purpose of gaining access to public or private lands open to hunting, if the entry on school
premises is authorized by school authorities.
"(2)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), it shall be unlawful for any person, knowingly or
with reckless disregard for the safety of another, to discharge or attempt to discharge a firearm at a
place that the person knows is a school zone.
"(B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to the discharge of a firearm--
"(i) on private property not part of school grounds;
"(ii) as part of a program approved by a school in the school zone, by an individual who is
participating in the program;
"(iii) by an individual in accordance with a contract entered into between a
(Publication page references are not available for this document.)
school in a school zone and the individual or an employer of the individual; or
"(iv) by a law enforcement officer acting in his or her official capacity.
"(3) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed as preempting or preventing a State or local
government from enacting a statute establishing gun-free school zones as provided in this
subsection.".
<< 18 USCA § 921 >>
(2) DEFINITIONS.--Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end thereof the
following new paragraphs:
"(25) The term 'school zone' means--
"(A) in, or on the grounds of, a public, parochial or private school; or
"(B) within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public, parochial or private school.
"(26) The term 'school' means a school which provides elementary or secondary education, as
determined under State law.
"(27) The term 'motor vehicle' has the meaning given such term in section 10102 of title 49,
United States Code.".
<< 18 USCA § 924 >>
(3) PENALTY.--Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end thereof the following
new paragraph:
"(4) Whoever violates section 922(q) shall be fined not more than $5,000, imprisoned for not
more than 5 years, or both. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the term of imprisonment
imposed under this paragraph shall not run concurrently with any other term of imprisonment
imposed under any other provision of law. Except for the authorization of a term of imprisonment
of not more than 5 years made in this paragraph, for the purpose of any other law a violation of
section 922(q) shall be deemed to be a misdemeanor.".
<< 18 USCA §§ 921 NOTE, 922 nt, 924 nt >>
(4) EFFECTIVE DATE.--The amendments made by this section shall apply to conduct engaged in
after the end of the 60-day period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act.
<< 18 USCA § 922 NOTE >>
(5) GUN-FREE ZONE SIGNS.--Federal, State, and local authorities are encouraged to cause signs
to be posted around school zones giving warning of prohibition of the possession of firearms in a
school zone.

Annnnnnnnd....kiss it all goodbye folks.

Welcome to new California 

Was the suspect on prescription drugs like the lion's share of the others? 

Was the suspect on prescription drugs like the lion's share of the others?

i heard greg hammer on KRTR talking about an escaped prisoner and a shooting
didn't hear what location he was talking about, but it was likely this one
he's a former cop, so if they have a scanner, he would know all the codes and other inside info

News now reporting officer shot 17 year old after being stabbed.  Kid was being picked up for being truant/ runnkngy away from campus when incident occured

apparently it wasn't a shooter, some kid lunged at a police officer with a knife on campus and the officer shot him in the wrist. thank god.

Latest I heard is that it was a runaway that the cops were trying to get.  He in turned stabbed the police officer, then he was subsequently shot by police in the wrist by a 45ACP.  No students were injured supposibly.

Sorry about my geriatric paranoia, but I'm becoming more and more suspicious that some of these incidents are set-up jobs.  It doesn't take much to deliberately plant "suggestions" in a weak-minded individual's head to go out and shoot up gun-free zones in order to advance the anti-gun agenda.

Not saying this is the case here, but my mind is sure trending that way in looking at some of the recent cases.

I was also very disappointed in the comments to the cited article.

seems like we should ban cops from having guns.  They seem to be doing all the shooting in Hawaii...

Now that the media finds out this is a case of self protection, and does not fit the agenda,  how fast can they get it off air?

Latest I heard is that it was a runaway that the cops were trying to get.  He in turned stabbed the police officer, then he was subsequently shot by police in the wrist by a 45ACP.  No students were injured supposibly.

No students were injured?  what about the 17 year old kid which got shot?  is he not a student?

Now that the media finds out this is a case of self protection, and does not fit the agenda,  how fast can they get it off air?

Not fast enough    They definately left the original report open to interpretation prior to having the facts.

sliver, reportably it was a runaway.  I'm just regurgitating what was reported that NO students were injured. If the news is wrong, then I am wrong.

My 2 cents worth...

   2 or more cops could not subdue a 17 yr old.
Granted he had a knife but don't they have tasers ? 

   Was this excessive use of force ?
As HPD fired several shots, and only one found a piece of flesh, was he aiming to disarm or just a poor marksman that threw a couple rounds at the kid and winged'em ?
Aiming to disarm says no immediate deadly threat., poor marksman makes me ask where did the other rounds end up inside the school ? 

  Finally, there goes Hawaii's present knife carry laws ! 

My .02...

Some 17yo aren't that small

A knife is a deadly weapon.

I doubt it was a shoot to wound. Shoot to stop. Just ended up wounding.   

We also don't know the distance of the altercation. Maybe there was a struggle. Maybe the officer drew his pistol and the attacker tried to grab the gun. Or maybe the attacker was going for his pistol so he had to draw it. A lot of unknowns at this point.

Remember that a knife within 21 feet is potentially fatal.  Most LEO probably got that training.

Remember that a knife within 21 feet is potentially fatal.  Most LEO probably got that training.

We were trained 30 ft; even had a demonstration to prove it was not only possible, but highly likely for someone who receives only limited training with their sidearm.

And for people saying, 'why didn't he just use a taser?' : if someone stabbed or attempted to your friend or partner, I can guarantee that you wouldn't tase him. Anyone with LEO training knows that if an attacker is already making an aggressive attempt to harm you or someone else, a higher escalation of force is needed; the taser is reserved for non-compliance without incident of attempted physical assault. 

On a side note, it has already been proven that HPD has a tendency to be trigger happy over the past few years. Still, I would have done the same in his shoes.

Play stupid games, get stupid prizes.  The kid is lucky he was only shot in the wrist.