The committee(s) on PSM has scheduled a public hearing on 02-04-14  3:45PM in conference room 224.

 
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SB2257 "Digitally" manufactured firearms and ammunition


http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2257&year=2014
 
Please get this thrown out!!!!  This bill is just absurd!!  Conceivably it could ban all modern firearms?  No CNC parts?   

Submitted on SB2050.  Would like to see what other people are submitting on 2257.  This bill seems kinda nuts.  My read is that they make it illegal to even make toy guns digitally or any part that could be used in a gun.

Also interested in what people are submitting on SB2938.   Not sure if I support that or not.  Seems kinda weird and pointless.

SB2257 "Digitally" manufactured firearms and ammunition


http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2257&year=2014
 
Please get this thrown out!!!!  This bill is just absurd!!  Conceivably it could ban all modern firearms?  No CNC parts?   

SB 2257 line 21: unless the person possesses a license to manufacture firearms

Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't this allow modern firearms though the manufactures or other places of buisiness that have the license?  My understanding that this bill is addressing an issue that a current law already covers.

This bill looks to be a feeble attempt to address 3D printing.  IMO there is a lack of understanding of how parts are manufactured in general.  Does anyone know what existing law covers this.  For example:  a AR-15 lower assembly (80%), what law dictates that it will be serialized upon assembly?

While the bill allows manufacture, I was looking at section (c) "It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly or intentionally possess, sell, deliver, barter, trade, gift, transfer, or acquire any firearm manufactured through the use of digital manufacturing technology."

I read it as it would be legal to manufacture if you have license, but not for anyone in Hawaii to own, under penalty of class C felony

Also section (e) "For purposes of this section, "digital manufacturing technology" means the use of an integrated, computer-based system comprising simulation,, three-dimensional visualization, analytics, and various collaboration tools to create product and manufacturing process definitions simultaneously. "Digital manufacturing technology" includes but is not limited to computer numerical control mills, three-dimensional printers, and laser cutting machines."

 I read this as pretty much any thing thought of and designed on or by computer, which is pretty much all newer firearms, parts, accessories.   

IANAL though, and political/legal jargon is confusing, at best, for me... 

Submitted on SB2050.  Would like to see what other people are submitting on 2257.  This bill seems kinda nuts.  My read is that they make it illegal to even make toy guns digitally or any part that could be used in a gun.

Also interested in what people are submitting on SB2938.   Not sure if I support that or not.  Seems kinda weird and pointless.

Update:  Thought I'd tell people what I said on SB2050.  I basically said that even if the 14 day waiting period serves a purpose as a cooling down period (which I don't actually concede), it serves no purpose whatsoever on subsequent purchases.   An instant NICS check could be performed when apply for subsequent permits.

Thinking about 2938, I don't support this.  It will cost a lot to implement correctly and ensure data is not hacked.  Registration of personal firearms is not needed in any case as this serves only to locate presently legal firearm owners in the case of confiscation.  I do not trust the city/state to keep my personal/medical information safe anywhere online.  It might make the process a little easier, but registering firearms with the state is, IMHO, an illegal and unnecessary standard that we must comply with.  Vetting of individuals for the purpose of determining if they are fit to possess a firearm is needed, this process ought to be owned by the firearm dealer in the first place, and criminals don’t care about any law and are not be effected one bit, in the registration permitting process.    Therefore, I cannot support making a process, in which i don't believe in, easier.

This could be the feeler hearing to determine if they will bring up the AWB bills and other BS legislation that was deferred last year.  Don't be complacent.  This is to show that gun owners in Hawaii have the force to make changes!!!

i agree
we have to hit all of these bills HARD