Please double check my order (Read 11307 times)

BLKDRGN

Please double check my order
« on: February 25, 2014, 01:27:29 PM »
Anything unneccessary or overkill? Something else better? None of my firearms are competition grade. As for rifles it's just a SPS Remington 700 and Barrett 98b. Oh and I have a RCBS Rockchucker single press.

1.   Dillon Precision from Brian Enos - $2,987.59
http://brianenos.com/store/dillon.html
•   Dillon XL 650 with .45 ACP Caliber Conversion Kit - $566.95
•   14406 – Carbide Pistol Dies (Three-Die Sets) 9mm - $63.95
•   14400 – Carbide Pistol Dies (Three-Die Sets) .38/.357 - $63.95
•   14404 – Carbide Pistol Dies (Three-Die Sets) .45 ACP - $63.95
•   Dcrd3ds – Carbide Rifle Dies (Three-Die Sets) .223 Remington - $162.95
•   14514 – RCBS .50 AE Custom Die Set - $49.95
•   11114 – RCBS .500 S&W Custom Die Set - $49.95
•   22059 – Quick Change Qty 6 - $107.95 = $647.70
•   21109 – XL 650 Caliber Conversion Kit 9mm - $77.95
•   21098 – XL 650 Caliber Conversion Kit .38/357 Magnum - $77.95
•   20836 – XL 650 Caliber Conversion Kit .500 S&W Magnum - $77.95
•   21092 – XL 650 Caliber Conversion Kit .50 AE - $77.95
•   21101 – XL 650 Caliber Conversion Kit .223/5.56 - $77.95
•   21253 – X-Large Powder Die (500 S&W & 50 AE) - $19.95
•   11069 – Magnum Rifle Casefeed Kit - $102.99
•   19455 – CV-750 Vibratory Case Cleaner - $144.95
•   20050 – 4 Large Pick Up Tubes - $23.95
•   20049 – 4 Small Pick Up Tubes - $23.95
•   10443 – XL 650 Machine Cover - $39.95
•   21045 – CM-500 Case/Media Separator - $46.95
•   “As It Should Be” upgrade (Strong Mount, Bullet Tray, Empty Case Bin, and Aluminum Roller Handle - $128.95

2.   Giraud Power Trimmer (.223 rem) - $440.00
http://www.giraudtool.com/prod02.htm

3.   RCBS 98923 Chargemaster Scale = $334.99 Total
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00139UC6O/?tag=2ahawaii-20

4.   Redding Type S Bushing 3-Die Neck Sizer Set (.308 Win) - $103.99  + Shipping
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/545972/redding-type-s-bushing-3-die-neck-sizer-set-308-winchester?cm_vc=ProductFinding

5.   Redding Type S Bushing 3-Die Neck Sizer Set (.338 Lapua) - $156.99 + Shipping
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/423053/redding-type-s-bushing-3-die-neck-sizer-set-338-lapua-magnum?cm_vc=ProductFinding

6.   Redding Type S Bushing Full Length Sizer (.308 Win) - $55.99 + Shipping
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/668734/redding-type-s-bushing-full-length-sizer-die-308-winchester?cm_vc=ProductFinding

7.   Redding Type S Bushing Full Length Sizer (.338 Lapua) - $85.99 + Shipping
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/782196/redding-type-s-bushing-full-length-sizer-die-338-lapua-magnum?cm_vc=ProductFinding

8.   Redding Neck Sizer Die Bushing 336 (.308 Win) - $23.49
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/888336/redding-neck-sizer-die-bushing-336-diameter-titanium-nitride

9.   Redding Neck Sizer Die Bushing 364 (.338 Lapua) - $23.49
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/656473/redding-neck-sizer-die-bushing-364-diameter-titanium-nitride

10.   Redding Neck Sizer Die Bushing 365 (.338 Lapua) - $23.49
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/662744/redding-neck-sizer-die-bushing-365-diameter-titanium-nitride?cm_vc=ProductFinding

11.   Redding Neck Sizer Die Bushing 366 (.338 Lapua) - $23.49
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/430928/redding-neck-sizer-die-bushing-366-diameter-titanium-nitride

12.   Lyman Universal Case Preparation Kit - $57.99 + Shipping
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/979270/lyman-universal-case-preparation-kit?cm_vc=ProductFinding

13.   Hornady Lock N Load Comparator 14 Inserts = 49.99 Total
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000PD01OC/?tag=2ahawaii-20

14.   Hornady One Shot Case Lube (pistol) - $10.99 + Shipping
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/438512/hornady-one-shot-case-lube-5-oz-aerosol?cm_vc=ProductFinding

15.   Imperial Case Sizing Wax (rifle) - $8.39 + Shipping
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/519525/imperial-case-sizing-wax-2-oz

16.   Frankford Arsenal Vibra Prime Automatic Primer Tube Filler = $54.99
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00BQ6A3Y0/?tag=2ahawaii-20
« Last Edit: February 27, 2014, 02:52:08 PM by BLKDRGN »
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Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2014, 01:58:55 PM »
Its better to buy extra presses than change calibers.

Buy extra die holders.....instead
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kekoa

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2014, 05:50:23 PM »
I think this is what speedtek meant by die holders. You can have the dies set and ready for all your different calibers, just pull out one tool head and place another in. It is a pain in the butt to remove dies and reset them every time you want to change calibers. Don't forget conversion kits for each caliber too!

ImKu

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2014, 06:49:40 PM »
Do you plan on reloading any semi-auto rifles?  If you are, I would look into getting a FL sizing die (maybe even a small base die) and a crimp die.  IMO it helps reliability and prevents feeding issues in semi-autos.  I would also throw in a caliper, a hornady bullet comparator.  Do  you already have stuff for brass prep (like a way to debur and chamfer the brass case mouth/flash hole or primer pocket uniformer,  and  case trimmer)?
« Last Edit: February 25, 2014, 08:26:04 PM by ImKu »
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mnpfamily

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 07:06:42 PM »
I think this is what speedtek meant by die holders. You can have the dies set and ready for all your different calibers, just pull out one tool head and place another in. It is a pain in the butt to remove dies and reset them every time you want to change calibers. Don't forget conversion kits for each caliber too!
Excellent advice above.  Without separate tool heads, you'll be hating life having to adjust and reset dies every time you change calibers.  Also, I believe the caliber conversion kits come with a powder measure.  This will allow you to have your powder drop set for each caliber.  Just have to reconfirm the correct drop before loading as opposed to having one measure and having to adjust for each load.  If in doubt, talk to the Dillon customer service people and let them know the calibers you're going to be loading and confirm what you'll need.
 Primer flip tray and extra pick up tubes for large and small primers?  If you're going to be loading in volume, having extras loaded up prior to starting a loading session is very convenient.
As for shipping, you might want to give WGS a call and see if they're still ordering Dillon products.  Their prices used to be the same as the Dillon book, but you'd just have to wait til it ships with other stuff he has ordered.  Don't know if he still does that, but it may be worth finding out.

mnpfamily

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2014, 07:26:33 PM »
Excellent advice above.  Without separate tool heads, you'll be hating life having to adjust and reset dies every time you change calibers.  Also, I believe the caliber conversion kits come with a powder measure.  This will allow you to have your powder drop set for each caliber.  Just have to reconfirm the correct drop before loading as opposed to having one measure and having to adjust for each load.  If in doubt, talk to the Dillon customer service people and let them know the calibers you're going to be loading and confirm what you'll need.
 Primer flip tray and extra pick up tubes for large and small primers?  If you're going to be loading in volume, having extras loaded up prior to starting a loading session is very convenient.
As for shipping, you might want to give WGS a call and see if they're still ordering Dillon products.  Their prices used to be the same as the Dillon book, but you'd just have to wait til it ships with other stuff he has ordered.  Don't know if he still does that, but it may be worth finding out.
Sorry, quick correction to the above.  The caliber conversion doesn't come with the powder dispenser, it's the quick change kit that has that.  Would be kinda expensive for all those calibers you listed.  Sorry about that.

ren

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 08:42:45 PM »
You can save a little more money with Lee dies and you may need a powder die along with each caliber toolhead if you are using just one powder measure.
My scores don't reflect any different with the kind of dies I use. I can attribute my scores to other things than ammo produced by a particular brand of die. If you aren't chasing sub MOA, benchrest accuracy you can ditch the Chargemaster.
Again I've shot 600 yard loads with both weighed and thrown charges from a Dillon powder measure on top of a Dillon 550 and my results were attributed to fundamentals: position, front sight, wind calls.
To get the most consistency with the Dillon PM you can polish the inside of it. I've had great results with Reloder 15 by doing that.
This is also a great time saver:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/890424/frankford-arsenal-vibra-prime-automatic-primer-tube-filler

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BLKDRGN

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 09:26:39 PM »
I updated the list with your suggestions. Do I need a Toolhead for each caliber? What if I get the Quick Change? Do I still need buy 7 quick changes for each caliber?
« Last Edit: February 25, 2014, 10:29:26 PM by BLKDRGN »
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BLKDRGN

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2014, 09:30:57 PM »
You can save a little more money with Lee dies and you may need a powder die along with each caliber toolhead if you are using just one powder measure.
My scores don't reflect any different with the kind of dies I use. I can attribute my scores to other things than ammo produced by a particular brand of die. If you aren't chasing sub MOA, benchrest accuracy you can ditch the Chargemaster.
Again I've shot 600 yard loads with both weighed and thrown charges from a Dillon powder measure on top of a Dillon 550 and my results were attributed to fundamentals: position, front sight, wind calls.
To get the most consistency with the Dillon PM you can polish the inside of it. I've had great results with Reloder 15 by doing that.
This is also a great time saver:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/890424/frankford-arsenal-vibra-prime-automatic-primer-tube-filler

I'm sticking with Dillon dies cause I'm already ordering from them. I'm also going with the Chargemaster cause it's automated right? I'm trying to do as little work if possible. lol. As for the Frankford Vibra-Prime Filler, you think the extra tubes that was suggested make it not necessary? Use this with just one tube cause it's fast?
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dumass

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2014, 09:42:27 PM »
BLKDRGN,have you looked @ Brian Enos.com, might save you a little on shipping.  :shaka:
I ordered my 550b from him.
Giraud trimmer

BLKDRGN

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2014, 09:44:01 PM »
Do you plan on reloading any semi-auto rifles?  If you are, I would look into getting a FL sizing die (maybe even a small base die) and a crimp die.  IMO it helps reliability and prevents feeding issues in semi-autos.  I would also throw in a caliper, a hornady bullet comparator.  Do  you already have stuff for brass prep (like a way to debur and chamfer the brass case mouth/flash hole or primer pocket uniformer,  and  case trimmer)?

The only semis I have is 223/556. Does the 3-die set not cover it?
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mnpfamily

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2014, 11:12:40 PM »
I updated the list with your suggestions. Do I need a Toolhead for each caliber? What if I get the Quick Change? Do I still need buy 7 quick changes for each caliber?
Having a separate tool head for each caliber will allow you to leave the dies as you have set them for each caliber.  The dies are screwed into the tool head and secured by a nut.  For me, I don't like to mess with my dies once they are set, so I use a different tool head for each of the 4 calibers I load (pistol only).  While they are not hard to set, I've found that messing with one will often times affect another.  For example, increasing bell/flair (sta 2) will affect sta. 3 (seating) and sta 4 (crimp).  Mess with sta 3, it'll affect OAL, which will mess with velocity.  Mess with sta 4, (especially if using plated or moly bullets), may cause tumbling bullet issues.  I don't like tinkering with stuff once I have it set, so I opt to have separate tool heads for each of the calibers I load.  Please keep in mind that this for a 550, not a 650 so the stations serve different functions.   I only load 4 calibers so it's not nearly the issue that those who load a lot of different calibers face.  Just depends on what and why you're loading and if you enjoy the whole reloading aspect.  I do not enjoy reloading, I reload so that I can shoot more for the same relative cost.
On a slightly different tact, try Hornady One-Shot instead of Dillon case lube for pistol ammo.  Switched very recently, wish I had done it a lot sooner.  A lot of re loaders insist no need for lube if reloading pistol ammo and using carbide dies, but it does make a big difference.  The press works a lot smoother using lube, the One-Shot eliminates wiping lube off each loaded round like you may have to if using the Dillon Case lube.  I've found that it saves a lot of time.

ImKu

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2014, 07:49:38 AM »
The only semis I have is 223/556. Does the 3-die set not cover it?

Sorry bro, I must have missed that... Your good with that set.
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wirecounter

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2014, 11:38:43 AM »
BLKDRGN,have you looked @ Brian Enos.com, might save you a little on shipping.  :shaka:
I ordered my 550b from him.
Giraud trimmer

+1. 

You will be supporting a fellow shooter even if you do not save any money, definitely will not cost you more than purchasing directly from Dillon. 

Also, check out Brian's slide glide . . . I use it for my handguns & semi-auto rifles.  :thumbsup:

BLKDRGN

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2014, 12:49:19 PM »
Thanks guys. I updated my list and will be ordering it through Brian Enos.
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BLKDRGN

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2014, 06:38:47 PM »
Am I supposed to get neck sizing bushings for the redding neck dies?
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dumass

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2014, 07:11:31 PM »
Scratch the oneshot lube and make your own lube with Lanolin/Alcohol  :shaka:

Bcspy

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2014, 07:31:39 PM »
Casefeeder plates for your caliber.    I have Dillon tumbler, but I rather would have gone to wet tumbler. Invest in Giraud case trimmer. Imperial Lube for rifle. Extra Whidden Gunworks toolhead for prep station for mass decap primer and resize. I ordered most of my Dillon items from Brian, check WGS they might have a 650 at a sale price. Save on shipping.  Will need .364 - .366 Redding Neck Bushing for .338 Lapua.  Also unable to Load 338 Lapua on 650, only 550. Die lock nut.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2014, 07:40:06 PM by Bcspy »

kekoa

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2014, 06:12:32 AM »
Scratch the oneshot lube and make your own lube with Lanolin/Alcohol  :shaka:

Yup to that!! 12:1, iso heet/lanolin. 4 bottles of iso heet (red and bottle not yellow) and 4oz. lanolin makes something like 48oz. You got case lube for life.

Ok sorry back to your thread.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2014, 01:44:36 PM by kekoa »

Kimo772

Re: Please double check my order
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2014, 09:26:28 PM »
You're rolling!  Add a bullet puller just in case.