Baker win (Read 53912 times)

Hawaii Volcano Squad

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2014, 11:08:45 AM »
The court is still divided 2-1 and as Baker comes in a different "position" & "posture" compared to Peruta, a SCOTUS appeal may be forthcoming.

However the FIRST ROUND OF DRINKS IS ON ME!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2014, 11:09:15 AM »
Hats off to you thanks gentleman :shaka:
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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2014, 11:51:01 AM »
The court is still divided 2-1 and as Baker comes in a different "position" compared to Peruta, a SCOTUS appeal may be forthcoming.

However the FIRST ROUND OF DRINKS IS ON ME!  :thumbsup:

We are a ways off from that if ever; it's unlikely the City would appeal it that far.  I don't think they would appeal anything as it is, but we will see.
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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2014, 12:11:45 PM »
 :thumbsup:
Congratulations to all involved in the lawsuit. Mr. Baker, Mr. Beck and Mr. Holcomb, and their assisting associates have my respect for filing the suit and spending what are no doubt countless hours researching, refining their arguments, and filing endless reams of paperwork.  :worship:

I admire your persistence in standing up to a (in my opinion) fascist government of legislators and law enforcement and judges who have no problem with enacting and enforcing and upholding unconstitutional laws. The odds were against this case, at least until possibly being accepted by SCOTUS, and the luck of the draw in the Ninth Circuit resulted in two judges who are willing to uphold what the Constitution actually says.  I knew that a rational assessment of the case would yield this result, but wasn't expecting the Ninth Circuit to be rational about a Second Amendment issue. Wow!  :thumbsup:

Let's hope that the Hawaii Attorney General and Governor acknowledge this and make the whole state consistent with the Constitutionally-guaranteed right to bear arms. I'm not holding my breath, but hopeful that I might still be alive when it happens.  :shaka:

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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2014, 12:13:18 PM »
Holy crap this is great news!  :shaka:

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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2014, 12:28:17 PM »
Congrats to the baker team.  So whats the next step in the fight?

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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2014, 12:32:27 PM »
A big thanks and congrats to Chris and the team.  The hard work, time and effort paid off.  We're all grateful  :shaka:

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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2014, 12:38:39 PM »
 :worship: :worship: :worship:

Awesome news!!!
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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2014, 01:03:59 PM »
as others have noted, a big congratulations and thanks on behalf of everyone who stands for freedom in this state.

furthermore, I do not really know what the linked document really said in laymans terms. When will we have a document we can print out to take to HPD and demand our permits?

wolfwood

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2014, 01:20:05 PM »
Congrats to the baker team.  So whats the next step in the fight?

george young's appeal is the next step. The government conceded on all issues other than carry so HRS 134 is going to be revised very soon.

A lot of credit goes to both Chris and George for stepping up and pushing for Second Amendment rights in Hawaii
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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2014, 01:55:36 PM »
is the line at HPD is gonna get crazy again?

hvybarrels

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2014, 01:58:33 PM »
wow. thank you so much!
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Hawaii Volcano Squad

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2014, 02:06:04 PM »
george young's appeal is the next step. The government conceded on all issues other than carry so HRS 134 is going to be revised very soon.

A lot of credit goes to both Chris and George for stepping up and pushing for Second Amendment rights in Hawaii

With regard to the Young case, I didn't see any courtroom oral argument on Michella website, just a lot of filings. Is there to be no courtroom argument or was there one not posted or listed?

punaperson

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2014, 02:07:36 PM »
george young's appeal is the next step. The government conceded on all issues other than carry so HRS 134 is going to be revised very soon.
Thank you for all your work on this and other Second Amendment cases. I'm wondering you'd be willing to narrow down "very soon"? Six months? Two years? Five more years?  :shaka:

A lot of credit goes to both Chris and George for stepping up and pushing for Second Amendment rights in Hawaii
:thumbsup:  :worship:

wolfwood

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2014, 02:41:10 PM »
With regard to the Young case, I didn't see any courtroom oral argument on Michella website, just a lot of filings. Is there to be no courtroom argument or was there one not posted or listed?

Arguments have no been scheduled yet. Since the appeal was unopposed other than on 134-9 the Court might not even have arguments. I hope that is the case since it costs a lot of money to pay for going up to San Fran for this stuff
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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2014, 03:16:51 PM »
Thank you all who were involved :worship::thumbsup: :shaka: I will now save for a firearm to carry.That XDs 4inch is looking mighty appealing now :thumbsup:

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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2014, 03:34:48 PM »
That's for all the hard work guys :shaka:

dwela

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2014, 03:56:06 PM »
Thank you for what you've done.  I hope to see CCW as shall issue someday soon.

Tom

Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2014, 03:57:58 PM »
We are a ways off from that if ever; it's unlikely the City would appeal it that far.  I don't think they would appeal anything as it is, but we will see.

Chris, is this the time to apply for CCW or should we wait until the lower court grants your injunction?

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Re: Win in Baker
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2014, 04:01:03 PM »
Thank you Chris and to your team.
We are all grateful for your hard work and determination in helping all legal gun owners and enthusiasts.

Mahalo