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Well if Q, new guy,  and the Admins want nobody else to post their thoughts on the 2nd Amendment cases percolating in the court systems that is fine with me.

"New guy" and "Q" show a proclivity towards personal attacks on me ever since they claimed that it was illegal to carry a knife and I disputed that assertion proving they were totally incorrect. Telling members they can't do something that is perfectly legal was just plain stupid.

Go Ahead and slag me all day and night if you want, this is the internet so if net rage is your thing, I am immune & could care less. I will not return insults.

Have a nice day all.   GOODBYE   GOOD LUCK   

    

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real genius ren... real genius

I like that popcorn gif! :O

I printed a copy for the Big Island carry permit. Do we really HAVE TO have a reason to carry? Or can it be just self protection plain and simple. What should be my purpose? I am a former ACO and now Deputy Sheriff E.H. Is that purpose enough?? I CAN be issued a permit by law BUT..... L.T.  will not issue a permit to any E.H. Just wondering Funtimes. Any help would be appreciated.

I printed a copy for the Big Island carry permit. Do we really HAVE TO have a reason to carry? Or can it be just self protection plain and simple. What should be my purpose? I am a former ACO and now Deputy Sheriff E.H. Is that purpose enough?? I CAN be issued a permit by law BUT..... L.T.  will not issue a permit to any E.H. Just wondering Funtimes. Any help would be appreciated.

I'd just wait.  I will be everything that no matter what you put, you will be denied up and until we get an order from Judge Kay here at home. At that point, all you will need to put is self-defense.

This is the timeline. The Defendants have 7 more days to file for en banc..  I agree with Chris that the City does not have the desire to keep going. 
The State which really means the AG's office is a unknown. They've been getting pressure to work. They asked for and were dismissed from the suit. So they do not automatically get to intervene but there is a strong chance they can if they want to.
If they do not file for en banc in 7 days then 7 days later a mandate is issued from the Ninth Circuit and we can proceed with the lower court.
 At that point their only option would be to file for a writ to the Supreme Court.
They have 90 days to do so from the date of the decision
I highly doubt that the lower Court will rule on anything filed until after that 90 days is up.
However we will have filed a MSJ which the lower court must rule in our favor on if the case proceeds in the lower court.
Either Chris or I will update this thread at the relevant times.
If I had to guess this will be over in 3-4 months
However the AG's office may put in some work.
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This is the timeline. ...

Wolfwood, thanks for the update on the timeline/details. 

This is the timeline. The Defendants have 7 more days to file for en banc..  I agree with Chris that the City does not have the desire to keep going. 
The State which really means the AG's office is a unknown. They've been getting pressure to work. They asked for and were dismissed from the suit. So they do not automatically get to intervene but there is a strong chance they can if they want to.
If they do not file for en banc in 7 days then 7 days later a mandate is issued from the Ninth Circuit and we can proceed with the lower court.
 At that point their only option would be to file for a writ to the Supreme Court.
They have 90 days to do so from the date of the decision
I highly doubt that the lower Court will rule on anything filed until after that 90 days is up.
However we will have filed a MSJ which the lower court must rule in our favor on if the case proceeds in the lower court.
Either Chris or I will update this thread at the relevant times.
If I had to guess this will be over in 3-4 months
However the AG's office may put in some work.
.

Thank you sir for taking the time to update the masses. Much appreciated and I as many others will continue to look for your updates and direction to move this forward favorably.

I printed a copy for the Big Island carry permit. Do we really HAVE TO have a reason to carry? Or can it be just self protection plain and simple. What should be my purpose? I am a former ACO and now Deputy Sheriff E.H. Is that purpose enough?? I CAN be issued a permit by law BUT..... L.T.  will not issue a permit to any E.H. Just wondering Funtimes. Any help would be appreciated.

If I remember right ....  New Hampshire suggests 'all lawful purposes' in their instructions as a valid reason for a permit.  But I'd take Chris' advice and wait.

If I remember right ....  New Hampshire suggests 'all lawful purposes' in their instructions as a valid reason for a permit.  But I'd take Chris' advice and wait.

I like Vermont's (unstated) suggestion: "What license/permit? You don't need no stinking permit/license." 

Thank you Funtimes and wolfweed, I will take your advice and wait. Oh I'm sorry, wolfwood.

This is the timeline. The Defendants have 7 more days to file for en banc..  I agree with Chris that the City does not have the desire to keep going. 
The State which really means the AG's office is a unknown. They've been getting pressure to work. They asked for and were dismissed from the suit. So they do not automatically get to intervene but there is a strong chance they can if they want to.
If they do not file for en banc in 7 days then 7 days later a mandate is issued from the Ninth Circuit and we can proceed with the lower court.
 At that point their only option would be to file for a writ to the Supreme Court.
They have 90 days to do so from the date of the decision
I highly doubt that the lower Court will rule on anything filed until after that 90 days is up.
However we will have filed a MSJ which the lower court must rule in our favor on if the case proceeds in the lower court.
Either Chris or I will update this thread at the relevant times.
If I had to guess this will be over in 3-4 months
However the AG's office may put in some work.
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Thank you for the clarification and HARD WORK!!!!