Hawaii law allows undercover police officers to have sex with prostitutes (Read 19563 times)

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Gives a whole new meaning to working "under (the) covers".
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i like! :thumbsup:

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It's a tough job, but somebody has to do it, or her.......OK or HIM [ EEwww]  :wtf:
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There is a hilarious south park episode similar to this situation

Q

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2014, 09:25:57 PM »
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« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 10:31:58 PM by Q »

Kingkeoni

I like this law.

It should be part of the benefit package for officers.

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 :wtf:

survivorman

Can't imagine who the hell thinks this is good!?  Divorce lawyers?  VD MD's?  And if the Intent is to prove some manini prostitution crime?  I would think most cops would be against it so when they need to investigate some toothless tranny they could say "sorry boss....couldn't do it, it's against the law!!".

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 04:35:49 PM »
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« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 11:31:29 AM by Q »

Kanakamaoli23

I find it ridiculous that they have to actually penetrate or whatever to prove prostitution. I don't understand why they can't just verbally agree to a sex act for money while the cop wears a wire. Why must the office actually have intercourse with the prostitute?

Kingkeoni

I find it ridiculous that they have to actually penetrate or whatever to prove prostitution. I don't understand why they can't just verbally agree to a sex act for money while the cop wears a wire. Why must the office actually have intercourse with the prostitute?
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Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Kanakamaoli23



Think about this. A lot of these prostitutes are probably forced into doing what they are doing. They don't want to get smashed by random dudes for money. They probably don't even get to keep a dime. Then here comes a cop, bangs her, then arrests her, further victimizing someone who didn't want to sleep with people for money in the first place. Why should police officers, who are paid to protect victims of crimes by our hard earned tax dollars, be approved by law to further victimize a young woman who was forced into what she does in the first place.

Now I'm not saying all prostitutes are victims or that they shouldn't be arrested. Sure, they should be arrested but they should be arrested with the intent of catching the guy who is putting them out there on the street.

Jl808

Hawaii law allows undercover police officers to have sex with prostitutes
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2014, 06:43:38 AM »
^^ +1 :thumbsup:  no need for the law(man) to further victimize the victims of human exploitation.
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hvybarrels

make it legal and regulate
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Bunker

Kinda odd this thing is with lawmakers publicly. You would think every PD has an internal policy that their officers can't bang prostitutes unless dire situations warrant it. However, I believe some things should not be public knowledge (i.e., how far undercover officers can go), and this applies to others areas as well. Once the individual or individuals know what the break point is, they have an advantage. I don't think any LEO simply trying to bust prostitutes or pimps needs to actually go through with the sex act ...I believe in general prostitutes insist on getting paid upfront.

Now, major and I mean major criminal activities, and not just prostitution alone, could potentially require this to occur (e.g., major drug distribution, organized crime, etc), whereas if a undercover officer didn't do this, it could potentially risk blowing his cover or potentially result in death by the criminal elements involved. But again, If this were the case, which I doubt, why make it public knowledge.

You got to really ask....is this really a problem in Hawaii that needs lawmakers attention?   

Kingkeoni

Think about this. A lot of these prostitutes are probably forced into doing what they are doing. They don't want to get smashed by random dudes for money. They probably don't even get to keep a dime. Then here comes a cop, bangs her, then arrests her, further victimizing someone who didn't want to sleep with people for money in the first place. Why should police officers, who are paid to protect victims of crimes by our hard earned tax dollars, be approved by law to further victimize a young woman who was forced into what she does in the first place.

Now I'm not saying all prostitutes are victims or that they shouldn't be arrested. Sure, they should be arrested but they should be arrested with the intent of catching the guy who is putting them out there on the street.

You've been watching too many lifetime movies.

No prostitutes are forced into anything.

They're a bunch of uneducated, lazy b!#ches that want to make an easy buck off horny old dudes.

If you had any idea about how much money a prostiture made, you'd poop your drawers.

Prostitution is illegal and if they get arrested then so be it.

Why punish a police officer for doing his job.
Your number one Option for Personal Security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Kanakamaoli23

You've been watching too many lifetime movies.

No prostitutes are forced into anything.

They're a bunch of uneducated, lazy b!#ches that want to make an easy buck off horny old dudes.

If you had any idea about how much money a prostiture made, you'd poop your drawers.

Prostitution is illegal and if they get arrested then so be it.

Why punish a police officer for doing his job.

That is simply not true. I know this because my dad is a pastor who works primarily with homeless and people who were previously incarcerated including the RAM program in Kahaluu. The drugs they did was their choice. The partying was their choice. They are not innocent victims who never made a bad decision in their lives but for many of them prostitution was not something they sat down and said, "hmmm, I could make a ton of money sleeping with men." Again, I can't speak for every single one of them. Perhaps some did make that conscious decision all on their own but I promise you it isn't all of them. So what does a cop do, only sleep with women who tell him they love their jobs, and then arrest them? C'mon man.

hvybarrels

sex slavery is a real thing and there's a lot of it here. the only way to put a dent in it is to legalize prostitution and regulate it so victims are not afraid to come forward and get double victimized by the 'law'. for some women sex work is their gift and sometimes its the only thing they are good at. just the way it is, and it makes no sense to punish them to keep up the pretense of moral values. This cop sex thing just brings it up to the front how backwards our value system really is.
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Kanakamaoli23

sex slavery is a real thing and there's a lot of it here. the only way to put a dent in it is to legalize prostitution and regulate it so victims are not afraid to come forward and get double victimized by the 'law'. for some women sex work is their gift and sometimes its the only thing they are good at. just the way it is, and it makes no sense to punish them to keep up the pretense of moral values. This cop sex thing just brings it up to the front how backwards our value system really is.

I really couldn't back the idea of making prostitution legal. I couldn't possibly desire my daughters to grow up in a society where it's treated like any old other job.