Anyone know if it is possible to receive training in Hawaii to acquire a Texas Concealed Carry Permit?  I do not see an online course available seems to be pretty big for Virginia though.  I'm assuming I need an instructor here.  I'm unsure how to locate one, if they exist here, if it's allowed to be taught out of state.  Thanks in advance.

Yes you can. OGC offers the CCW class for UTAH. It will also cover these states including Texas which is listed on this website. http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html

Yes you can. OGC offers the CCW class for UTAH. It will also cover these states including Texas which is listed on this website. http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html

What covers texas?  The Utah permit? Or the training from a Utah instructor for a Texas permit?  Either way, I discovered my venture pointless now.  The sole reason of doing this was to be able to conceal carry for 2 weeks out of the year in the state of Pennsylvania.  The only problem is the state of Hawaii needs to reciprocate to PA.  An out of state one is not good enough if you're from a state that does not reciprocate.  I called the Sheriff's Office of Delaware County, PA to confirm this.

Yes the UTAH CCW permit covers Texas and Pennsylvania. The training class that is provided at OGC in Hawaii is for the UTAH CCW permit which covers a lot of States. Just think about it this way, you are taking the UTAH class but the training is located in Hawaii. Your card will say UTAH on it.

Here's a really good map.  You can see which states honor a carry license from any state you select, both resident and non-resident.  You can also see which states' licenses are honored by the state you choose.

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

So, here's the deal.  Hawaii DOES NOT ISSUE PERMITS.  They say they MAY, but they do not.  So, don't even go down that path.

Other states issue NON-RESIDENT licenses.  For example, I just received a non-resident CCW card from Maine.  Many states honor non-resident Maine licenses, a few of which I intend to visit soon.

Based on the map at the link above, these states' non-resident licenses are honored for carry in Pennsylvania:

Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming

Based on that list, the Utah license won't help you for carrying in PA.  You need to look into applying for a non-resident license from the list above.

Some states, like Maine, have minimal training and document requirements.  Maine just wanted an NRA-type safety class in the last 5 years, copy of my driver's license & birth certificate, passport photo, the application fee of $60, and the completed application.  If you have a DD-214, that can substitute for the safety training.  Since they don't require a CCW training class or finger prints, they are very easy to get approved.  unfortunately, EVERYBODY wanted one last year from Maine, so it took mine 9 months!  Their law requires 2 month max for issue, but the number of applicants overwhelmed them.  They are caught up now with the backlog, so I'm curious what the current wait time would be.

Anyway, research the CCW websites for the state you'd be interested in obtaining from the list above.  Pick one with the requirements you can easily meet and the shortest wait time/backlog.

Hope that helps.  Good luck!

Here's a really good map.  You can see which states honor a carry license from any state you select, both resident and non-resident.  You can also see which states' licenses are honored by the state you choose.

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

So, here's the deal.  Hawaii DOES NOT ISSUE PERMITS.  They say they MAY, but they do not.  So, don't even go down that path.

Other states issue NON-RESIDENT licenses.  For example, I just received a non-resident CCW card from Maine.  Many states honor non-resident Maine licenses, a few of which I intend to visit soon.

Based on the map at the link above, these states' non-resident licenses are honored for carry in Pennsylvania:

Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming

Based on that list, the Utah license won't help you for carrying in PA.  You need to look into applying for a non-resident license from the list above.

They said even with a non-resident permit from the states above, Pennsylvania will not honor it unless the state you actually reside in (Hawaii) reciprocates, which it doesn't.  I know Hawaii isn't a "shall issue" state so I'm not sweating that.  I'm not sure why, but that's what the Sheriff's Office said in Pennsylvania.

More advice:  If you intend to carry in several states using out of state licenses not issued in all of the states you are visiting (non-resident), it's good to have multiple CCW permits that cover you there.

Reciprocity agreements can change.  If you don't keep current, you could find yourself with a license that is no longer honored by the state you just got arrested in.  Having a backup license is a good idea.  Plus, multiple licenses will normally add additional states you can carry in.



UPDATE ON THE UTAH LICENSE:  The reciprocity agreement on the PA Attorney General website shows it became effective June 26, 2014.  That might explain why the reciprocity map shows resident and non-resident Utah CCW is not honored in PA.

After reading the agreement, this jumps out: 

Now, therefore, the parties do hereby agree as follows:

1.  The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania shall give full faith and credit to a valid Concealed Handgun License issued by the State of Utah to  residents of the state of Utah; ...

Based on that, a non-resident Utah CCW can not carry in PA.  And based on what the police told you, this probably applies to all non-resident licenses.

Here's the agreement:  http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/Utah_reciprocity_agreement.pdf

And here's the list of states PA honors:  http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184

Like I said, things change.  The reciprocity map is a great tool, but you still have to double-check its information in each state you choose to apply or carry in.

Aloha!

Are you sure you wouldn't rather visit North Carolina?  They honor all states' CCW licenses, both resident and non-resident!   

Are you sure you wouldn't rather visit North Carolina?  They honor all states' CCW licenses, both resident and non-resident!   

I think Alaska does too!  Nah I have family in PA.   

I didn't know about the resident vs non-resident. Thanks for that. I believe what you can do is to get your UTAH license and then apply for the Arizona one online. You can then use the Arizona one for Pennsylvania.

Okay, I was confused by what you said the PA Police said. 

They will not issue a PA non-resident permit unless you, the applicant, holds a permit from your state of residence, given that your state's law allows issue of CCW permits. 

As we know, Hawaii is effectively a "will not issue" state, even though officially they "may issue"  That fact is what's causing PA to deny your application for a non-resident permit there.

PA does honor non-resident CCW licenses from certain states (see that list I posted). 

When I cross-reference the list of states that issue non-resident permits to Hawaii residents with the list of states PA honors, the only match I find is Texas.

So, unless you have business in one of the other states that issue to non-residents, or are military and meet certain other criteria, that's about as close as you can get from here.

Maybe I'm missing something, but that's what I was able to locate.

Good luck!

Okay, I was confused by what you said the PA Police said. 

They will not issue a PA non-resident permit unless the applicant holds a permit from their state of residence, given that their state's law allows issue of CCW permits.

However, they DO honor non-resident CCW licenses from certain states (see that list I posted). 

When I cross-reference the list of states that issue non-resident permits to Hawaii residents with the list of states PA honors, the only match I find is Texas.

So, unless you have business in one of the other states that issue to non-residents, or are military and meet certain other criteria, that's about as close as you can get from here.

Maybe I'm missing something, but that's what I was able to locate.

Good luck!

Yeah it seemed Texas was the best choice.  Of course the whole non-resident thing messes it up.

I didn't know about the resident vs non-resident. Thanks for that. I believe what you can do is to get your UTAH license and then apply for the Arizona one online. You can then use the Arizona one for Pennsylvania.

Sorry.  PA only accepts AZ permits for AZ residents as well.

Sorry.  PA only accepts AZ permits for AZ residents as well.

Yeah I just chalk it up to "I'm Screwed".   

Yeah I just chalk it up to "I'm Screwed".   

No, you just need to trust the police will be there to protect you should you find yourself in a bad situation! 

Or, you could go hunting the whole time.  There are exceptions for being actively engaged in hunting!