"I am going to the range today" (Read 594833 times)

dogman

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #940 on: July 13, 2020, 06:09:10 PM »
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To clarify, that partcular target was shot with the pointy side towards the target. :rofl:
not the backwards bullets.
I guess you were trying not to hit that "X" thing in the middle.

oldfart

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #941 on: July 13, 2020, 08:35:17 PM »
I guess you were trying not to hit that "X" thing in the middle.
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At 25 yards, I couldn't see that little x thing.
Out of sight, out of mind. :rofl:
What, Me Worry?

Direjackalope

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #942 on: July 19, 2020, 01:12:01 PM »
Gents, I'm looking to take some friends to the range next month.  What are the wait times looking like on the target pistol side?

Barrett808

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #943 on: August 26, 2020, 12:42:48 PM »
FYI
Lead Slingers
Last day to shoot
Kokohead shooting complex close for next 3 weeks.

kainoa999

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #944 on: October 15, 2020, 12:05:34 PM »
Anybody know if you still need to make online rsvp for KHSC? I couldn't find any updated info? Trying to plan a range day with my sons, any info/advice appreciated.  :shaka:

macsak

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #945 on: October 15, 2020, 01:15:50 PM »
Anybody know if you still need to make online rsvp for KHSC? I couldn't find any updated info? Trying to plan a range day with my sons, any info/advice appreciated.  :shaka:

first come, first serve, no reservations needed...

kainoa999

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #946 on: October 15, 2020, 01:31:53 PM »
first come, first serve, no reservations needed...

Appreciated - any advice on the best times to go? Looking to go this or next weekend.

19pontiac79

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #947 on: October 17, 2020, 07:40:55 PM »
Went today oct 17. Steel side was closed. Anybody know when they open?
"if can. Can. If no can. No can" - Uncles 😆
"Why? The ring no block the hole." - Uncle's 😘
"You can throw a rock any distance and you will hit a double standard. = LIFE" 🤷🏽‍♂️

macsak

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #948 on: October 17, 2020, 07:47:13 PM »
Went today oct 17. Steel side was closed. Anybody know when they open?

closed indefinitely

19pontiac79

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #949 on: October 17, 2020, 07:58:03 PM »
closed indefinitely

Dang!    :'( :shaka:

Wait list must be   :crazy: on the target side. Guess I'll have to go public "hunting" grounds and bring a few orange and yellow golfballs along :D
"if can. Can. If no can. No can" - Uncles 😆
"Why? The ring no block the hole." - Uncle's 😘
"You can throw a rock any distance and you will hit a double standard. = LIFE" 🤷🏽‍♂️

oldfart

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #950 on: October 17, 2020, 08:45:01 PM »
Probably go Sunday afternoon to see if I still remember which way the head goes.
What, Me Worry?

omnigun

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #951 on: October 28, 2020, 04:39:23 PM »
Nvm in going next week.  This week work called me up fml

Inspector

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #952 on: October 28, 2020, 07:21:14 PM »
Probably go Sunday afternoon to see if I still remember which way the head goes.
The head goes in. Gee OF I have to remind you of everything! :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

islandgunner

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #953 on: October 29, 2020, 08:45:37 AM »
How busy is the rifle side at Koko Head these days? Haven't gone to the range in ages but looking to get back into it. I remember awhile back friends saying how packed it would get, having to go early, etc.

wirecounter

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #954 on: October 29, 2020, 09:01:02 AM »
How busy is the rifle side at Koko Head these days? Haven't gone to the range in ages but looking to get back into it. I remember awhile back friends saying how packed it would get, having to go early, etc.

I've been going on Saturday afternoons and the rifle side is more than half empty, sometimes only 1/4 of the benches are being used.  Haven't gone on a Sunday for a few years as it was always packed with a waiting list practically all day.  I recall guys going at 5:00am on Sundays to reserve a bench.

zippz

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #955 on: October 31, 2020, 05:07:47 PM »
Pistol filled up at 7:30am today and there were a couple people on the waitlist at 10am.  Looked like rifle had a bench or two open at 10am.

Could be a Halloween thing though.

19pontiac79

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #956 on: November 01, 2020, 02:12:22 PM »
Went today nov 1. Pistol target side. Came early 730 was able to get a spot. by the time the line went hot at 8am had waiting list. Was a good day. Tested out some 38 special reloads my cousin did (first time reloader) out of 100 4 was a no go. Looked like primer was seated too deep. Light firing pin dimples. There were more that looked deep seated but went off in single action on second go round. Was great to finally get out and shoot. My cuz was excited too because he got to fire his  new to him dan wesson revolvers along with my model 19 all 6" barrels. I did notice that factory 357 is a bit more snappy in the k frame then my old man n frame 28 highway patrolman.

Had a mishap with someone else's reloads though. Looks like it was a missed\low charge and the primer was enough to push the bullet into the barrel just enough to lock the revolver up. Lucky it happened in the dw, after looking at it was decided to remove the barrel since it's easy in the dw as opposed to the Smith. After he got the round out the bullet was still partially seated in the case. Really lucky that this happened on the last round and that the bullet didn't go partway into barrel letting a next round to chamber.

We took it as learning experience :thumbsup:

And we will most likely be at it again next week. I have 4 revolvers thats getting out of jail on thu  :geekdanc: 3 smiths and 1 ruger.

 :shaka:
"if can. Can. If no can. No can" - Uncles 😆
"Why? The ring no block the hole." - Uncle's 😘
"You can throw a rock any distance and you will hit a double standard. = LIFE" 🤷🏽‍♂️

Inspector

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #957 on: November 02, 2020, 02:43:49 AM »
Went today nov 1. Pistol target side. Came early 730 was able to get a spot. by the time the line went hot at 8am had waiting list. Was a good day. Tested out some 38 special reloads my cousin did (first time reloader) out of 100 4 was a no go. Looked like primer was seated too deep. Light firing pin dimples. There were more that looked deep seated but went off in single action on second go round. Was great to finally get out and shoot. My cuz was excited too because he got to fire his  new to him dan wesson revolvers along with my model 19 all 6" barrels. I did notice that factory 357 is a bit more snappy in the k frame then my old man n frame 28 highway patrolman.

Had a mishap with someone else's reloads though. Looks like it was a missed\low charge and the primer was enough to push the bullet into the barrel just enough to lock the revolver up. Lucky it happened in the dw, after looking at it was decided to remove the barrel since it's easy in the dw as opposed to the Smith. After he got the round out the bullet was still partially seated in the case. Really lucky that this happened on the last round and that the bullet didn't go partway into barrel letting a next round to chamber.

We took it as learning experience :thumbsup:

And we will most likely be at it again next week. I have 4 revolvers thats getting out of jail on thu  :geekdanc: 3 smiths and 1 ruger.

 :shaka:
My experience with primers being set too deep is extremely rare. It is is usually caused by using a pocket reamer that is not the type that keeps one from going too deep and being used too much. I have one of these and it is over 40 years old. Most pocket reamers are set so you cannot go too deep. I assume the primers used are of the correct size. If it turns out the primers are set too deep then I would discard the brass. There are also very hard primers such that a pistol may have difficulty striking it hard enough to set it off. For instance, someone may have used a small rifle primer that is designed for use in an AR type rifle that has a floating firing pin. Also, some European and Russian primers are known to be more difficult to set off. These primers use a much harder cup and some pistols may have a hard time properly striking them. One more thing I have noticed and that is Winchester primers have been less reliable than other brands. Winchester usually uses brass cups instead of the silver colored cups. I bought a case of them once and probably 5 or 6 out of every 1,000 never ignited even when hit well.

There is one other thing to consider and is something I have found to happen more often in revolvers, and that is a weak hammer spring or the hammer spring tension is set too soft. This happens sometimes when a revolver has had a trigger job and the trigger is set too light. It could be a light spring was put in or too light of a setting. With SA/DA revolvers, the hammer does not come back as far when shot in DA mode. If you cock the hammer and use it in SA mode it brings the hammer back farther allowing more energy to hit the primer than in DA mode. If the hammer spring is too weak, or the hammer spring tension is set too soft you will see light hammer strikes more often in DA mode as in SA mode. And that can happen in SA mode as well but is less likely. The S&W revolvers have a hammer spring tension screw that can and does back out during shooting and can cause light hammer strikes. It will be more noticeable in DA mode first and then you might start seeing it in SA mode. I have had it happen to almost every one of my S&W revolvers. It is an easy fix. Remove the grips and screw the tension set screw back in.

Overall I would say that primers being set too low is something to check but it is more likely one of the other things I mentioned. I would look at those things first such as harder primers and/or weaker hammer springs. It could also be a combination of these things as well.

One thing I learned to do during reloading is to look into every single case before setting the bullet. Make sure you have powder in there and that the powder is at the same level as all the other cases. This helps prevent squib loads.

I hope this helps!
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

19pontiac79

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #958 on: November 02, 2020, 06:41:16 AM »
My experience with primers being set too deep is extremely rare. It is is usually caused by using a pocket reamer that is not the type that keeps one from going too deep and being used too much. I have one of these and it is over 40 years old. Most pocket reamers are set so you cannot go too deep. I assume the primers used are of the correct size. If it turns out the primers are set too deep then I would discard the brass. There are also very hard primers such that a pistol may have difficulty striking it hard enough to set it off. For instance, someone may have used a small rifle primer that is designed for use in an AR type rifle that has a floating firing pin. Also, some European and Russian primers are known to be more difficult to set off. These primers use a much harder cup and some pistols may have a hard time properly striking them. One more thing I have noticed and that is Winchester primers have been less reliable than other brands. Winchester usually uses brass cups instead of the silver colored cups. I bought a case of them once and probably 5 or 6 out of every 1,000 never ignited even when hit well.

There is one other thing to consider and is something I have found to happen more often in revolvers, and that is a weak hammer spring or the hammer spring tension is set too soft. This happens sometimes when a revolver has had a trigger job and the trigger is set too light. It could be a light spring was put in or too light of a setting. With SA/DA revolvers, the hammer does not come back as far when shot in DA mode. If you cock the hammer and use it in SA mode it brings the hammer back farther allowing more energy to hit the primer than in DA mode. If the hammer spring is too weak, or the hammer spring tension is set too soft you will see light hammer strikes more often in DA mode as in SA mode. And that can happen in SA mode as well but is less likely. The S&W revolvers have a hammer spring tension screw that can and does back out during shooting and can cause light hammer strikes. It will be more noticeable in DA mode first and then you might start seeing it in SA mode. I have had it happen to almost every one of my S&W revolvers. It is an easy fix. Remove the grips and screw the tension set screw back in.

Overall I would say that primers being set too low is something to check but it is more likely one of the other things I mentioned. I would look at those things first such as harder primers and/or weaker hammer springs. It could also be a combination of these things as well.

One thing I learned to do during reloading is to look into every single case before setting the bullet. Make sure you have powder in there and that the powder is at the same level as all the other cases. This helps prevent squib loads.

I hope this helps!

Thanks for the insight. I ll pass it along to my cuz. and will check out the suggestions in a process of elimination. Can most likely rule out a weak hammer spring as all 3 revolvers set off the factory ammo we brought %100 , and the only way I run my revolver is with tension screw all the way in and loctited. I checked that they were still set that way when I cleaned them after the range.

Will be def checking out his pocket reamer and his primers. I think he bought winchester's. And he bought both the pistol primers and rifle primers so he could use them for double duty when it came to reloading 223. If time permits going to try those reloads next week.

Since he is a rookie reloader he is paranoid about everything. Double\triple checking his work. Which is a good thing. All the reloads he made was at a recommended starting charge. Felt like shooting a pellet gun. Next run hes gonna roll 38 +p pressures as out all the factory rounds we shot we had the most fun with those. He's going to use the 38 spcl loads for when his wife and kids want to shoot. And I think I will save the factory 357 loads for my ruger redhawk and n frames.

In hindsight we should have separated the spent brass that needed the second strike and the 4 rounds that were a no go so we could track and determine if we should toss it.

Well bumbai. We both learning :thumbsup:
 :shaka:
« Last Edit: November 02, 2020, 06:51:01 AM by 19pontiac79 »
"if can. Can. If no can. No can" - Uncles 😆
"Why? The ring no block the hole." - Uncle's 😘
"You can throw a rock any distance and you will hit a double standard. = LIFE" 🤷🏽‍♂️

Rhed

Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Reply #959 on: November 09, 2020, 11:53:23 AM »
Is Koko Head gonna be open Veterans Day?