Quote from: GZire on June 14, 2011, 05:14:18 PM

Quote from: vooduchikn on June 14, 2011, 12:19:09 PM

SBRs.

We should be able to, but we can't.

I doubt punks would be lighting of suppressed weapons. They really are not that quiet and supressor set ups are anything but cheap.

I disagree about the suppressor prices.  You are only talking a couple of hundred dollars.

Source? Are you included the NFA tax stamp that is required. A couple is 2.

Oh yeah, speaking of suppressors, there are several companies that pay the $200 tax stamp for you.  So, you still come out $4-600 on a centerfire suppressor.

Sorry I don't mean to say it's only going to be $200, but it's in the hundreds, but under a thousand.   When compared to full auto it really seems like a drop in the bucket.

You could, but for something that you really only want to have to buy once, it pays to get a top dollar can with good guts.  That puts you with AAC, KAC, and Surefire; and above $1k with tax stamp ($1600 for me.)

This is probably going to be the dumbest question in history relating to suppressors, but.........Does it lose effectiveness at an atrocious rate? Let's say you're some hispeed hotshot in the gumbo forces of Narnia and you train with it a lot. Do you have to replace it every year? Or are we looking at a wear-rate similar to barrels?

SERBU ACTION!!!!

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Dregs, I'm interested in finding out about the wear as well.

Bananaclip, that Serbu is cool and I believe you only have to pay a $5 tax stamp on it but it only holds 2+1. Not too bad I guess, but you'd probably want that brake on it.

Another thing we can't have is easy shipment of ammunition to our doorstep.  I mean easy as in go online to MidwayUSA, stick a case of ammunition into the cart, select standard shipping and just sit back and wait for it to arrive.  No other fees or steps like joining the CMP. 

Yet another thing that's not firearm related:  the ability to actually shop for a car.  Having to choose between a maximum of three dealers isn't going to get you much, while you can have many more to choose from on the mainland.

As far as something Hawaii has that the mainland doesn't?  Right now, family and weather that rarely changes much.  The first is one of the only things keeping us here.  The second, when compared to all the other advantages of living on the mainland, I'm starting to not care about. 

 

This is probably going to be the dumbest question in history relating to suppressors, but.........Does it lose effectiveness at an atrocious rate? Let's say you're some hispeed hotshot in the gumbo forces of Narnia and you train with it a lot. Do you have to replace it every year? Or are we looking at a wear-rate similar to barrels?

If it's properly maintained...........dunno how long a suppressor will last.  That being said, I've seen pics though of major fouling leading to death of the suppressor when the operator didn't clean it. 

This is probably going to be the dumbest question in history relating to suppressors, but.........Does it lose effectiveness at an atrocious rate? Let's say you're some hispeed hotshot in the gumbo forces of Narnia and you train with it a lot. Do you have to replace it every year? Or are we looking at a wear-rate similar to barrels?

Here's the best place I can think of to describe with pictures what happens inside a suppressor, its mainly dependant on the barrel length, ammo, and firing schedule.  Suppressors are considered wear items and do degrade, but the life of the can depends on a lot of factors...

Running Suppressors on SBRs

Quote from: Dregs on June 16, 2011, 07:15:35 PM

This is probably going to be the dumbest question in history relating to suppressors, but.........Does it lose effectiveness at an atrocious rate? Let's say you're some hispeed hotshot in the gumbo forces of Narnia and you train with it a lot. Do you have to replace it every year? Or are we looking at a wear-rate similar to barrels?

If it's properly maintained...........dunno how long a suppressor will last.  That being said, I've seen pics though of major fouling leading to death of the suppressor when the operator didn't clean it.

If properly maintained, they will last near forever so long as they are used properly. I've heard of several cans with 60k+ Of 5.56 with no problems. A lot of folks dip clean their sealed cans, and soda blast the take down ones.

Most manufacturers will rebuild a can if it wears out or gets a baffle strike anyhow, so long as it's on a 10.5" or longer barrel. (unburnt powder pretty much sand blasts the blast baffle at that point or shorter on centerfire)

.22 cans are near indestructible also. Just make sure it's a take down unit so you can clean it.

^^^Interesting link.  I'll need to read more into it when I've got the time.  Thanks.

I'm interested to know if you folks can own a .30 M1 carbine.  This is one of the funnest guns in the world to shoot and is right up there as far as handy-dandy home defense weapons go, especially for the ladies and other slightly-built persons (like kids).

Tons of guys with M1 carbines in Hawaii.  I'd venture to say the lineup at Kokohead has a more diverse and unique mix of firearms than any other public range I've been to in the lower 48. 

I have an M1 Carbine from the CMP.  It is a fun little rifle, only problem with it for me is finding *good* ammunition locally.  Young Guns and Windward stocks FMJ, but I was looking for defensive ammunition (Corbon DPX specifically) and the only stuff I found was Winchester White Box HP ... at Magnum . 

Back when I had a WW2-era K98k, I wanted full Euro-spec 7.92x57 mm ammo which gives 2600 - 2700 fps (near 30-06) velocities but with a heavier (198gr) round.  All I could find locally was the SAAMI-spec stuff that is neutered to 2300 fps or less due to the existence of pre-WWI rifles which weren't designed to higher pressures.  In the end, I gave up and sold the rifle.  If I could have access to ammunition sold on the mainland (without a plane ticket, ORM-D fees, or reloading), I would have a choice between surplus Yugoslavian ammo, Sellier and Bellot, Premium Wolf, etc; all at full-spec loading. 

I have an M1 Carbine from the CMP.  It is a fun little rifle, only problem with it for me is finding *good* ammunition locally.  Young Guns and Windward stocks FMJ, but I was looking for defensive ammunition (Corbon DPX specifically) and the only stuff I found was Winchester White Box HP ... at Magnum . 

Back when I had a WW2-era K98k, I wanted full Euro-spec 7.92x57 mm ammo which gives 2600 - 2700 fps (near 30-06) velocities but with a heavier (198gr) round.  All I could find locally was the SAAMI-spec stuff that is neutered to 2300 fps or less due to the existence of pre-WWI rifles which weren't designed to higher pressures.  In the end, I gave up and sold the rifle.  If I could have access to ammunition sold on the mainland (without a plane ticket, ORM-D fees, or reloading), I would have a choice between surplus Yugoslavian ammo, Sellier and Bellot, Premium Wolf, etc; all at full-spec loading.

You should be able to have the .3o carbine ammo shipped direct to you from the CMP for an extra $16 shipping.  So $25 if memory serves.  Best deal around.