One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting? (Read 17015 times)

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One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« on: July 31, 2014, 06:07:46 PM »
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Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2014, 06:14:07 PM »
Well if you showed up to the Hdf range day you would know how hard we train that scenario.  :shaka: the next one I would really like to see you come out. Its going to be a special one! O0 but for me frequency every time I practice at home which is almost daily dry fire and at least once a month during live fire

new guy

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2014, 06:16:16 PM »
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macsak

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2014, 09:32:14 PM »
Was just talking to macsak about that... date already established? Going to have to do some juggling, but want to make it to the next one.

Also, please expand on "train at home." SIRT? Airsoft? Dry-fire?

And please see my somewhat related post in the "Special" portion of the forum.  :shaka:

hdf range days are always the last saturday of the month

"some members of this forum" i won't specify who (one of their names rhymes with "flirtychickens") do special "tactical bvd drills" practicing clearing their house if awoken by an intruder alert

SIRT trainers are pretty cool, especially if you have a glock

personally, i have the laserlyte targeting system to use at home
dry fire is the next best thing

BigBlue

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2014, 11:25:17 PM »
I do one-handed.. haven't tried weak side.

Good idea though. I'm pretty right hand dominant so probably do it with the 22 first to make sure it doesn't jump out of my hand  :thumbsup:

BigBlue

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2014, 11:34:47 PM »
hdf range days are always the last saturday of the month

"some members of this forum" i won't specify who (one of their names rhymes with "flirtychickens") do special "tactical bvd drills" practicing clearing their house if awoken by an intruder alert

SIRT trainers are pretty cool, especially if you have a glock

personally, i have the laserlyte targeting system to use at home
dry fire is the next best thing


How do you like the LaserLyte? I am a glock owner myself so I may splurge for the SIRT's at some point. They're pricey, but I figure they'd let you do indoor practice (which unless you have access to a shoot house, is essentially impossible here).

The SIRT AR Bolt looks pretty interesting too, especially since it has the resetting trigger.

macsak

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 05:37:45 AM »

How do you like the LaserLyte? I am a glock owner myself so I may splurge for the SIRT's at some point. They're pricey, but I figure they'd let you do indoor practice (which unless you have access to a shoot house, is essentially impossible here).

The SIRT AR Bolt looks pretty interesting too, especially since it has the resetting trigger.

i like the laserlyte trainer
i have the older, bigger model
but have tried all 3
out of them all, i much prefer the model that comes with the 2 smaller targets
the cans, while fun, require you (or your kids) to reset themselves after every round
the big target is, well, big, and static
the 2 smaller targets blink randomly and can be placed at differing distances and angles
i have the "in the barrel" laser, but i would recommend the "in the chamber" type unless you have multiple calibers you want to practice with
plus in the barrel type enable you to holster and draw

SIRT is awesome if you have a glock

oldfart

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2014, 06:20:41 AM »
I occasionally practice weak hand only pistol shooting. I was just doing that a few weeks ago.
It is tough, especially with full power 45 acp. But you gotta do it cuz you never know...
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Lee

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2014, 07:20:56 AM »
The dot torture drill is good practice. HDF normally does it during their pistol courses.

•Dot 1 – Draw and fire one string of 5 rounds for best group. One hole if possible, total 5 rounds.
•Dot 2 – Draw and fire 1 shot, holster and repeat X4, total 5 rounds.
•Dots 3 & 4 – Draw and fire 1 shot on #3, then 1 shot on #4, holster and repeat X3, total 8 rounds.
•Dot 5 – Draw and fire string of 5 rounds, strong hand only, total 5 rounds.
•Dots 6 & 7 – Draw and fire 2 shots on #6, then 2 on #7, holster, repeat X4, total 16 rounds.
•Dot 8 – From ready or retention, fire five shots, weak hand only, total 5 rounds.
•Dots 9 & 10 – Draw and fire 1 shot on #9, speed reload, fire 1 shot on #10, holster and repeat X3, total 6 rounds.

new guy

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2014, 08:07:07 AM »
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BigBlue

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2014, 12:59:35 PM »
i like the laserlyte trainer
i have the older, bigger model
but have tried all 3
out of them all, i much prefer the model that comes with the 2 smaller targets
the cans, while fun, require you (or your kids) to reset themselves after every round
the big target is, well, big, and static
the 2 smaller targets blink randomly and can be placed at differing distances and angles
i have the "in the barrel" laser, but i would recommend the "in the chamber" type unless you have multiple calibers you want to practice with
plus in the barrel type enable you to holster and draw

SIRT is awesome if you have a glock

Good tip on the cans vs big target - I didn't think of that, thanks!

I have a 17 so a SIRT Pro would let me train exactly.. hm.. maybe in a month or so.. been spending more than I like this month.  :oops:

oldfart

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2014, 01:15:26 PM »
I do one-handed.. haven't tried weak side.

Good idea though. I'm pretty right hand dominant so probably do it with the 22 first to make sure it doesn't jump out of my hand  :thumbsup:
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Brothers, try weak hand unsupported slow fire at the bullseye range first. If you use full power ammo, it will toss your hand all over the place like no electronic simulator ever will.
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Tom_G

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2014, 01:31:38 PM »
I never have cared for the term "weak side."  It's not that I've got some politically correct rub against it, I think the term is accurate enough.  It's just I don't see anything weak about being on the wrong end of a gun, regardless of which hand someone is holding it with.  If there's a loaded gun in your hand, that's your strong side!
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BigBlue

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2014, 01:33:44 PM »
What are the bulls-eye hours anyway?

new guy

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2014, 02:20:00 PM »
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Surf

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2014, 12:01:17 PM »
Do you do one-handed pistol shooting?

Weak side?

Point shooting?

How often?
Quite often on all counts, except for I do not prefer the term "point shooting".  Yes forms of this happens and is taught, but it can have multiple definitions of actual shooting techniques from trainer to trainer.  Perhaps it is more so come to imply a negative connotation in legal surroundings.   

I still carry a weapon professionally and a big part of my job is teaching, so it is a necessity, however I would do it anyway.  I just spent the last 5 months where I was seeing 40 students per week for two, 2 day courses per week and these topics are covered, so needless to say I got a lot of reps in.  Outside of teaching, I often find myself taking base level courses in order to keep up certain certifications.  I am good with this as the opportunity to work and hone fundamentals is never a bad thing.  Plus I always learn something, if not from the course material, sometimes from the instructor or from a student.  If nothing else, you often learn or reinforce why some instructors, teaching techniques or old school principles may indeed suck and why evolution is a good thing. 

Because of these opportunities to work things that are not the most "fun", I have gone through courses completely utilizing my support side as the primary side.  I am of the stance that the more you learn and can become proficient with, the better off you will be.  There is a caveat to that, in that you must first have the time and resources, plus your base fundamentals should be sound.  If time and resources are limited and your base fundamentals are not sound, then you might be better off working on honing base fundamentals first, as in primary side, two hands, good sight alignment and sight picture with the correct application of the trigger.

I will also note that I picked up a SIRT Pro awhile back and we now have them for our training group.  Great training aids when used properly and followed up with additional dry and live fire drills. 

Walena

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2014, 04:43:32 PM »
Due to a kind of major injury I suffered a couple of months ago to my right hand, I have been learning to shoot left handed. I pretty much got the rifle shooting down. Been shooting strictly left handed and using my left eye. The handgun part is a little tougher. Shooting left handed unsupported with a 1911 is not as easy as I thought. I'll need to spend a whole lot more time working on it. Gonna suck if I have to switch to a left handed holster.

Kingkeoni

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2014, 05:49:59 AM »
Due to a kind of major injury I suffered a couple of months ago to my right hand, I have been learning to shoot left handed. I pretty much got the rifle shooting down. Been shooting strictly left handed and using my left eye. The handgun part is a little tougher. Shooting left handed unsupported with a 1911 is not as easy as I thought. I'll need to spend a whole lot more time working on it. Gonna suck if I have to switch to a left handed holster.

Patience. With practice you can shoot equally well with either hand.
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oldfart

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2014, 06:10:00 AM »
I've seen some people shoot better weak-hand because they have to concentrate more on trigger squeeze and the weak hand does not remember bad habits that the strong hand developed. Moderate strength training excercises for grip and shoulder helps. Point of impact is way different though.
But at closer ranges, it doesn't matter much.
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new guy

Re: One-handed / Weak side pistol shooting?
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2014, 07:33:49 AM »
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