Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned (Read 38467 times)

robtmc

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2014, 05:34:38 PM »
My yard floods in heavy rain.  It's only happened once, but it's happened once.
Had a back yard that did that once, after it filled with about 6" of water, the solution was evident and a bit of trenching tool opened a nice small culvert that prevented it ever happening again.

This was in SoCal, so rain heavy enough to show the problem happened maybe every three years.  Water always wants to drain somewhere, just a matter of going with the flow, so to speak............
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stangzilla

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2014, 05:43:45 PM »

I had enough food and drinking water for about 1 month for the household.
but I'm always looking to improve.
ordered a waterbob for the bathtub.
and also going to look into a catchment system. and purification. always wanted to do that anyway.
also ordered some dehydrated food for backup. and could use more.

like stated above, securing the home is important.

I forgot how quickly stores can sell out of food and water in a buying frenzy.
we are just a couple steps away from going into Katrina mode.

BUD

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2014, 06:01:13 PM »
I am learning the usefulness of a generator.  Since my power is out, charging the cell phone in the car is a PITA!  Would be nice to have a generator to also run the fridge.  Can't eat that stuff fast enough!  Will look for ice tomorrow but might be too late for some items.  Everything else is covered but a generator would make things really great about now!
It is what it is.

Jl808

Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2014, 06:06:48 PM »
Lesson learned?

hurricane price gouging  :shake:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=15978.0

Surf's story outside Costco  ;)
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=15934.msg148842#msg148842

Be on the lookout- stolen generator -45lima  :wtf:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=15973.0

Big Island's only Red Cross Emergency Truck stolen  :wtf:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=15985.0

"S" hasn't even "HTF" yet and we see this happening already.  Where is the aloha?

Hawaii has a serious property crime problem during non-SHTF conditions and this will only get worse if SHTF did occur.

Hawaii needs to decriminalize the use of force to protect oneself and one's property against looters especially when there is no rule of law.
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Walena

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2014, 07:11:19 PM »
I am learning the usefulness of a generator.  Since my power is out, charging the cell phone in the car is a PITA!  Would be nice to have a generator to also run the fridge.  Can't eat that stuff fast enough!  Will look for ice tomorrow but might be too late for some items.  Everything else is covered but a generator would make things really great about now!

I'll keep an eye out for you. There were several on Craigslist on Wednesday, but my guess is that they were gone that day. There may be some coming up for sale on there too. A lot of people bought them earlier in the week, but now want to get their money back. Kind of like how it's going with them after buying cases of water and trying to take them back to the store.

Here's a few places you can check on Saturday:

Steve's Honda
Home Depot
White Cap
Garden Exchange
Del's
Lowe's (since Kona had no real outages, they may still have some)

Good luck, I'll keep in touch.      :shaka:




dafrtknocker

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2014, 07:44:19 PM »
Next time I'll check in with the inlaws earlier, they end up waiting and we're the ones standing in line at the stores getting water.

robtmc

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2014, 08:38:13 PM »
I am learning the usefulness of a generator.  Since my power is out, charging the cell phone in the car is a PITA!  Would be nice to have a generator to also run the fridge.  Can't eat that stuff fast enough!  Will look for ice tomorrow but might be too late for some items.  Everything else is covered but a generator would make things really great about now!
If it is too late for your food. maybe cut your losses and toss it.

Wait a bit for the impulse buyers to fade and stocks to come back in, and buy a Honda eu2000 (my humble recommendation) as an easy one person luggable, quiet, fuel sipping beast.  It easily runs a very large fridge and a small microwave.  Power is said to be clean enough (inverter) to run electronics without damage, but that is something I care little about.

If you are feeling flush, the eu2000 can be paralleled with another one for 4kW.  Possibly a pricey way to get that much power, but nice to know if you needed it.  It is very quiet when running in its "eco" mode, just kicking into high when the load requires it.

Had mine for 5-6 years now and never regretted buying it yet.  Sort of like a home defense shotgun you might say.

newguy86

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2014, 08:41:32 PM »
Getting a generator with fuel, more 5 gal bottle,clean 55 gal drums, bigger gas stove, sleeping bag or blow up beds, mre's. But I only prepping for a few short weeks, I have 2 weeks of food always, but I still have family and friends that wasnt ready at all, only to have them call me or come over, without nothing! Even my parents and wife not taking it serious enough, Shtf event happens I not looking forward too, 30 ppl to take care of? I am happy to help, but my first rule in survival is to take care of my wife and I first, everything comes after.

newguy86

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2014, 08:50:04 PM »
If u got a cooler and frozen foods, bag them add rock salt on it, the salt will drop the temperature lower, also thinking of getting a food dehydrator, dry strips of meats and fish, even fruits can hold if done right

Tom_G

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2014, 09:17:37 PM »
If u got a cooler and frozen foods, bag them add rock salt on it, the salt will drop the temperature lower, also thinking of getting a food dehydrator, dry strips of meats and fish, even fruits can hold if done right

There's an inverse relationship between temperature and duration there.  You can make it colder, but it won't last as long.  Also, although dehydrators are nifty, you can dry those things in your oven.  It takes more attention, but works every bit as effectively.
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Surf

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2014, 11:39:57 AM »
If u got a cooler and frozen foods, bag them add rock salt on it, the salt will drop the temperature lower, also thinking of getting a food dehydrator, dry strips of meats and fish, even fruits can hold if done right

Try out what TomG mentions.  I dehydrate in my convection oven.  It is a double convection oven so it can hold a lot.  The convection oven works better as it is basically the same deal as a dehydrator, but a regular oven will work, just takes longer.  Oven temps need to be able to be in the 140*-175* range.  If the oven is a bit hot, leave it ajar.  I use baking sheets with cookie cooling racks on them.  Lets the air circulate nicely around everything. 

oldfart

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2014, 11:51:43 AM »
Try out what TomG mentions.  I dehydrate in my convection oven.  It is a double convection oven so it can hold a lot.  The convection oven works better as it is basically the same deal as a dehydrator, but a regular oven will work, just takes longer.  Oven temps need to be able to be in the 140*-175* range.  If the oven is a bit hot, leave it ajar.  I use baking sheets with cookie cooling racks on them.  Lets the air circulate nicely around everything.
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I dunno about leaving the door ajar to lower the temp.
Wouldn't the thermostat just fire more often and bring the temp back up?
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Walena

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2014, 03:32:17 PM »
I have a dry box made out of redwood. When I lived in South Kohala, I used it a lot to mostly dry fish. I'd just set it on the pahoehoe for about 4 hours, then I had about 10 lbs. of dried fish or meat. Nowadays, I wait for few really good hot days and just set it on the roof of the garage. Just got to make sure to keep it away from the cats and mongoose.

passivekinetic

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2014, 04:18:48 PM »
Google for DIY solar dehydrator.

Is a hassle to make but it can work if you got sunlight hitting the box.

Oven is expensive to run for hours and even a dehydrator draws high wattage for the heating coil (I have an Excalibur).
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Walena

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2014, 06:59:43 PM »
Cost to build a dry box: $30

Cost for fish/ meat (if not caught on your own): $30

Cost to dry:$0

Taste of dried akule and tako: priceless

shibby95

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2014, 07:26:59 PM »
Has anyone bought the portable 2000watt, sine generator from COSTCO with the built-in inverter and used it? it was priced at $599.99




Shibby95

Tom_G

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2014, 11:05:29 PM »
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I dunno about leaving the door ajar to lower the temp.
Wouldn't the thermostat just fire more often and bring the temp back up?

Nope.  It will try, but with the door ajar, a typical oven just does not have the horsepower to bring your entire kitchen to 200 degrees. 
The difference between theory and reality is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and reality.

Rocky

Re: Disaster Close Calls - Lessons Learned
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2014, 09:21:38 AM »
   To all my friends.

   Prepping for a disaster (of ANY kind) is not done when you receive notice of impending doom.
It is a daily occurrence and way of life.
From gardening to shopping,  maintenance to storage, it is a process that takes a steady  resolve.

    When you shop, buy that extra pack of toilet paper, Spam , bleach or water for long term storage.
Commit to spending  a set amount, even $10.00 a week to beef up your  Prep supplies.
Buy only what you already consume so it can be rotated out.
Same thing with gas. Buy a 5 gal or 2 .Rotate them into your vehicle and fill them back up.
It’s not like it’s going to get any cheaper and you won‘t be part of the maddening crowd scrambling around at the last moment only to find higher prices or worse yet, empty shelves!  :shake:
We’ve been doing this for years and it’s amazing how much MONEY we have SAVED.   :worship:
 
    Yes I know, “Where am I supposed to put all of this stuff ?”.
Get creative. Clear out  that junk closet, put rafters in your parking overhang, loose the bed frame and replace it with boxes of canned goods or  milk crates filled with your goodies.

     The chance of a hurricane hitting our east facing oceanfront home did not make us skip a beat in our daily lives.
We were already prepared.
We're always prepared.

“In any survival situation, you should try to keep your friends alive as long as possible. They stay fresh longer that way.”   :wave:
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