a FFL is duly authorized to receive , sell firearms from / to any entity or individual including the US (agencies such as FBI, IRS, TSA) or State (DLNR, DPS correction officer).

If an FFL is already exempt from possession , it is also exempt from usage ( insertion into a pistol ).

So a small loophole that allows people to have pistol mags with more than 10 rounds but only at a range. I don't really see a whole lot of use for that. Or we could all just get FFL licenses...

So a small loophole that allows people to have pistol mags with more than 10 rounds but only at a range. I don't really see a whole lot of use for that. Or we could all just get FFL licenses...

it also exempts machine guns and SBRs

So a small loophole that allows people to have pistol mags with more than 10 rounds but only at a range. I don't really see a whole lot of use for that. Or we could all just get FFL licenses...

As long as you are a member under that FFL its legal.

(3)  To regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive the weapons from the United States or from the State; provided the members are either at, or going to or from, their places of assembly or target practice;

How I am reading this is that if you are authorized to purchase from, you are exempt. It doesn't say that you HAVE to purchase from US or the State, just that if you are authorized to do so, you are exempt. I take it that an FFL would be exempt under this? Thoughts?

Right!   just need to be authorized , which is what a FFL is. one does not have to buy anything from the US or State!
Thus, all member under that organization is also exempt .

Now all we need is an FFL who desires to be a test case...I would love to be able to legally own a Krinkov AK-74 someday.

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lIt's not about any test case , as local FFL has had large capacity mags for decades, All that is required is if the FFL will allow normal people to sign up as a " normal member" of their organization,

HRS134-11 exempts usage of mags as well as ownership of pre May sample MG and SBRs without the blessing of any CLEO.
a post 86 sample will require a demo letter from a CLEO. This is if the FFL is also a SOT.


 I'm sure the owners don't read the laws and normal go by what they are told by HPD or ATF.
Or they never disclosed this speacial information to the public!

One of my friends just got his FFL.  I'll have to ask him what the entire process was like.  He lives in a state with probably one of the least state level restrictions though. . .

One of my friends just got his FFL.  I'll have to ask him what the entire process was like.  He lives in a state with probably one of the least state level restrictions though. . .

FFLs  need not be local, it is basically a clause to allow mainland sporting / targeting events to be held within Hawaii. In which the  "any organization" was worded.
Such as the CMP competitions .

CMP does and is authorized to receive firearms from the United States! In such all competition members are exempt.

FFLs  need not be local, it is basically a clause to allow mainland sporting / targeting events to be held within Hawaii. In which the  "any organization" was worded.
Such as the CMP competitions .

CMP does and is authorized to receive firearms from the United States! In such all competition members are exempt.

I just meant that I can talk to him about recent experience in what it took to get an FFL.  I know basically what it takes, but those were usually from people who got them a long time ago or not anything close to first hand info.

I just meant that I can talk to him about recent experience in what it took to get an FFL.  I know basically what it takes, but those were usually from people who got them a long time ago or not anything close to first hand info.

easy as 12345

$200
proper zoning
a safe
interview
60 days

ATF states explicitly that, in addition to newer firearms it individually approves, firearms automatically achieve C&R status upon turning 50. Certain automatic weapons have been designated as C&R firearms, and a C&R may be used to acquire these as well.

HDF does not have an FFL

HDF holds a C&R FFL in the corporate name. But, I wouldn't play games with something like this. I'd challenge it in court for declaratory relief if anything.

HRS134-11 specificlly states these are exempt for LEO and organizations. I think only a AG determination is required as to what an organization means

HDF was only an example

FFL with SOT are already exempted from owning MG for demo sales to HPD and other agencies. Which as 134-11 states all normal members of that organization are also exempted.

I'd be willing to be the test case for owning  MGs in Hawaii.

already sent a PM to wolfwood

I think it would be more worthwhile to focus on CCW and magazine bans first, as this would be more commonly used by most people.  Assuming financial resources are limited.  Also limited areas where full-auto would be allowed.

I think it would be more worthwhile to focus on CCW and magazine bans first, as this would be more commonly used by most people.  Assuming financial resources are limited.  Also limited areas where full-auto would be allowed.

exemption is across the board
mags , SBR and MG, all in the same boat. because HPD can have all of them ,

LEO's and all federal agencies are exempt under this same HRS.

So by simply working for say, DHS you would be exempt?