1. 10 round limit applies to magazines that can fit into pistols only?
2. people who sell AR magazines on auction sites, like ebay and gunbroker, often get this mixed up and assume they can't sell 30 round pmags to hawaii?

AR mags do fit into a pistol!

Yup agree with above.  Technically there is the AR pistol which fit the same magazine.  The AR pistol is considered an assault pistol and is banned in Hawaii.  The argument is why should >10 round magazine be banned if the pistol that it fits is already banned.  The letter of the law doesn't say it only applies to non-banned firearms so technically they are illegal.  Not strictly enforced possibly because of the non-existence of the Ar pistol in Hawaii however I wouldn't go to HPD with one and don't take them to the range.  Others may say otherwise but why push your luck.  My 2 cents.

AR mags do fit into a pistol!

ya that was my next question  and its been answered. thanks.  despite that ar pistols are non existent here, why are AR mags above 10 rounds sold here? .... if they are technically illegal, or are they technically legal? 

ya that was my next question  and its been answered. thanks.  despite that ar pistols are non existent here, why are AR mags above 10 rounds technically legal?
so why do some sellers refuse to ship to hawaii?

They are technically illegal just not strictly enforced.

who said AR pistols are illegal?
lots of new AR pistols owners here.

Some one please post the treads on AR standard capacity debates...... I can't do it right now.  Thanks

Here's an oldie https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=338.msg1303#msg1303

who said AR pistols are illegal?
lots of new AR pistols owners here.

clarification... AR pistols are NOT illegal... Assault pistols are.

Assault pistols are banned but not specifically the AR pistol, good catch.  However the typical AR pistol is an assault pistol unless you remove a few common features, kind of like the New York AR that recently was introduced.  That was an awesome move by the manufacturers.


HRS §134-1  Definitions.  As used in this chapter, unless the context indicates otherwise:

     "Assault pistol" means a semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics:

     (1)  An ammunition magazine which attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

     (2)  A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward hand grip, or silencer;

     (3)  A shroud which is attached to or partially or completely encircles the barrel and which permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the second hand without being burned;

     (4)  A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded;

     (5)  A centerfire pistol with an overall length of twelve inches or more; or

     (6)  It is a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm;

but does not include a firearm with a barrel sixteen or more inches in length, an antique pistol as defined in this section or a curio or relic as those terms are used in 18 United States Code §921(16) or 27 Code of Federal Regulations 178.11.

clarification... AR pistols are NOT illegal... Assault pistols are.

yeap 

hahahahahaha LOL 

thanks  for the replies folks
so i guess my next question is what are the pros and cons (for the seller) of selling and/or shipping technically-illegal-30-round-pmags here?
obviously selling them would benefit the seller's business despite technically being illegal, OTOH refusing to sell 30 rounders obeys the law but results in less business
so why do some businesses sell em and ship em here and some dont? is it simply that some choose to abide by the law despite it not being strictly enforced, and some choose to slide past it?  i dont get it, does anyone share this sentiment? it seems like a gray area

I feel most mainland businesses and sellers don't want to get involved nitpicking the Hawaii law, and it's not worth it for them.  Hawaii has a lot of firearms owned, but very few owners compared to mainland states, I think it was 7%?  So on a national scale, Hawaii probably makes up well under 1% of sales, and AR magazines are probably a lot less in that 1%.  So it's not worth their time or money to consult with lawyers, spend time debating if the law is valid or not, possibly get fined or lose their business, get bad publicity, etc just to make pennies.

Some outfits will sell Product "X."

Some outfits won't sell Product "X."

It is a Business Decision, and it is the Seller's prerogative to act in a manner that is most advantageous to the Seller.

Arguing the pros and cons of a Business Decision may be difficult to do, as such decisions are, many times, dependent upon factors and information that are specific to the particular Seller.

Best of luck, brother yurcarmeean!