I am curious. When (not if...) Hawaii is either forced by the courts to change the current laws pertaining to the issuance of a concealed carry permit (from "May" to "Shall"), or if a bill is introduced for the same purpose, what should Hawaii's "new" concealed carry law(s) be?

Here's a few things to consider:

Training - Should there be mandated training? If so, how much and what should it consist of?

Restrictions on where you can carry- Are there any places you shouldn't be able to carry your legal firearm? Should there be any other restrictions, such as drinking and carrying?

Reciprocity- Should Hawaii recognize other state's permits?

Renewals/Fees - How often should the permits be renewed and how much should it cost?

Anything I missed?

i am thinking what we want is going to be VERY different from what we get
 

I am curious. When (not if...) Hawaii is either forced by the courts to change the current laws pertaining to the issuance of a concealed carry permit (from "May" to "Shall"), or if a bill is introduced for the same purpose, what should Hawaii's "new" concealed carry law(s) be?

Bills have been introduced that past few sessions by both Senators Slom and Gabbard. I like Gabbard's version a little better because he suggests lower fees. No matter what bill is inrroduced, it will not get a committee hearing, much less a committee vote, much less a vote before the entire Senate, much less a vote before both houses, much less pass get to the governor's desk. Other than that, the chances are good. Except even Chuck Michel (litigator of Peruta) believes that if en banc is granted there is a high probability that it will be overturned. So we're talking years on a final decision there (more than enough time for our legislators to craft the "perfect" law). But I'll play the game, from two sides....

Here's a few things to consider:

Training - Should there be mandated training? If so, how much and what should it consist of?

Me: Eight [8] hours weeknight or weekend, combined classroom (legal, safety, etc.) and range. Max cost $100. One time, good for life.

Our Hawaii Public Servant Legislators: Forty (40) hours, weekdays only, no weekend or night classes. Must be taught by current law enforcement employees of the state. Includes extensive background check, new fingerprinting, required mandatory "voluntary" rescinding of all mental and physical health privacy re records, etc. Examination at end of class to include written and "practical" tests, as well a psychiatric evaluation by "state approved" psychiatrist. A pass rate of more than 50% of the class invalidates the entire class, as we know people in Hawaii are neither that smart nor that responsible nor that mentally healthy, especially people who want to own guns and carry them in public. Minimum cost: $1000. Good for one year (but requires renewal every 90 days along with mental health exam [see below]). Class must be repeated every year.

Restrictions on where you can carry- Are there any places you shouldn't be able to carry your legal firearm? Should there be any other restrictions, such as drinking and carrying?

Me: Same restrictions of locations, impairment, etc. as law enforcement. 

Our Hawaii Public Servant Legislators: No carry outside a 100 foot perimeter around the home/property or workplace. Must get special use permit (three week waiting period) for each occasion when wanting to carry in a vehicle or at another residence. No exceptions. Class A felony and automatic $10,000 fine if caught carrying 101 feet from your property line. Mandate "smart gun" technology with GPS capability with 24/7/365 recording to computer recorded and checked for violations.

Reciprocity- Should Hawaii recognize other state's permits?

Me: Yes. And other states should recognize Hawaii's licenses. Better yet, national reciprocity like drivers licenses, which would include a big F YOU to Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Hawaii, etc.

Our Hawaii Public Servant Legislators: Hells NO! Good only for Hawaii, and continued no recognition of what those stupid ignorant hillbilly red-neck states do.

Renewals/Fees - How often should the permits be renewed and how much should it cost?

Me: Ten (10) dollars per year. Done via mail, or email or a phone call. No F-ing three trips to the police station during weekday working hours.

Our Hawaii Public Servant Legislators: Renewal every 90 days (same as required mental health exam), but must pay the $1000 (one thousand) annual fee up front (plus just post another $1000 to pay for the 4 mental health exams).

Anything I missed?

Training - Should there be mandated training? If so, how much and what should it consist of?

Restrictions on where you can carry- Are there any places you shouldn't be able to carry your legal firearm? Should there be any other restrictions, such as drinking and carrying?

Reciprocity- Should Hawaii recognize other state's permits?

Renewals/Fees - How often should the permits be renewed and how much should it cost?

Anything I missed?

Punaperson: I understand that bills have been introduced many times, and that the likelihood of them reaching a committee hearing is small. That being said, I think another bill will be introduced this session, and if we can rally enough support, who know what may happen. We may get lucky. And, if we do, we need to be prepared to offer up some suggestions.

Lucky? Lucky enough that 51% of the 90% of the legislature that opposes "assault weapons" and demands full registration of every firearm (including unusable, unserviceable antiques (a law also supported by Hawaii Rifle Association... talk about a place to start negotiations!), etc. will either "change their mind" or be replaced in the upcoming election? That'd be so far beyond "luck" that you'll have to invent a new word. Ain't gonna happen, short of revolution. The Slom and Gabbard CCW bills covered the main points in "reasonable" ways. The proverbial snowball in hell chance... Unless... somehow Peruta was upheld and finalized with no stays and no pending appeals... THEN the legislature may want to craft their own restrictive CCW law. Maybe I'm just too cynical/realistic.

From a purely negotiations standpoint, I think the first offer should be simply changing the wording of the statues from "May" to "Shall." Nothing more. Why, because why would we want to start negotiations somewhere other than the lowest possible place. Sort of like asking for a 100% reduction in a bill when you know you will accept 50%....If you start negotiations at 50% you know you'll never get it.

I support nearly-unregulated carry, with training incentivized.

Permits are required and will be shall-issue, with exceptions for those who fail NICS or are adjudicated nuts.  Permits are good for 5 years.  Cost is $100, but is reduced by 20% for each year proof is demonstrated that the bearer has attended a certified training class (therefore if you trained every year, the permit would be free).  List of certified class to be approved by me. 

Full reciprocity.  If you can carry anywhere, you can carry here.

No limitations on carry locations.  Federal locations subject to Federal guidelines.  All state locations explicitly to allow carry.  Businesses, private institutions, etc. allowed to make their own policies.

Carrying while impaired to follow the same guidelines as driving.

Tom_G for Governor!

I accept your nomination!

You got my vote!!