Strong hand becomes weak. (Read 7724 times)

Rocky

Strong hand becomes weak.
« on: December 16, 2014, 10:10:30 AM »
         I recently suffered a serious injury to my support hand (left) but continued with my training as well as I could (who doesn't practice dominant one handed shooting ?).
     We train regularly with support hand in anticipation of the loss of the use of dominant hand, but was amazed at the difficulty encountered by the dominant hand alone with the loss of support hand !
    Inserting a magazine into a firearm, much less loading the magazine itself can be a challenge.  :shake:

    Try taping your support side hand in a ball, stand in the middle of the room and do your thing.
Load your pistol mag (with blanks !) and insert it.
Now rack it and fire
Now make it safe.   
 :crazy:
    Now try that with your AR, AK, Tavor or long arm of choice.
Fun Eh ?
Even more fun dropping and picking up the cartridge while holding the gun, FTF/FTE or failure in general. :'(

    (Wheel guns and bolt action are a bit easier as there is no spring(s) to contend with, +1 for Tom :thumbsup:).

   If you get somewhere you can livefire this safely, I'm sure it will be a real eye opener, especially when timed.

Just something new to practice kiddo's
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

drck1000

Re: Strong hand becomes weak.
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 10:41:40 AM »
In one of the handgun classes I took last year, manipulating the gun with one hand was covered and practiced quite a bit.  This was with a holster (non concealed carry type), which actually makes stuff like reloaded easier.  Doing those drills with your support side increases the difficulty tremendously.  Or things like racking the slide with the sights off of your belt or other object.  Never know until you try.  We also did some manipulation with one arm down with the AR, but not as much as with the handgun.

One "fun" drill to incorporate is doing your normal shooting and have someone randomly have one arm "go down".  We've done it with someone simply tapping one shoulder or also have someone throw a tennis ball at you from behind and whatever it hits is assumed to have taken a round.  Of course, go slow at first, but it is really eye opening as to how much you take for granted. 

matt0137

Re: Strong hand becomes weak.
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 11:04:14 AM »
Sorry to hear. I hope the injury is not permanent and you recover soon.


It's a good point you bring up and something to think about.

Q

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macsak

Re: Strong hand becomes weak.
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2014, 12:09:53 PM »
         I recently suffered a serious injury to my support hand (left) but continued with my training as well as I could (who doesn't practice dominant one handed shooting ?).
     We train regularly with support hand in anticipation of the loss of the use of dominant hand, but was amazed at the difficulty encountered by the dominant hand alone with the loss of support hand !
    Inserting a magazine into a firearm, much less loading the magazine itself can be a challenge.  :shake:

    Try taping your support side hand in a ball, stand in the middle of the room and do your thing.
Load your pistol mag (with blanks !) and insert it.
Now rack it and fire
Now make it safe.   
 :crazy:
    Now try that with your AR, AK, Tavor or long arm of choice.
Fun Eh ?
Even more fun dropping and picking up the cartridge while holding the gun, FTF/FTE or failure in general. :'(

    (Wheel guns and bolt action are a bit easier as there is no spring(s) to contend with, +1 for Tom :thumbsup:).

   If you get somewhere you can livefire this safely, I'm sure it will be a real eye opener, especially when timed.

Just something new to practice kiddo's

i read the post title and imagined it was going to be about a shaw brothers kung fu movie
"hey"
"you killed my master"
"i'm going to get you"
"hey"
"my crane style is better than your monkey style"
then there's the training montage where the old master says, "strong hand becomes weak"
and the student has to mix jook with his non-dominant hand

Tom_G

Re: Strong hand becomes weak.
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2014, 12:45:35 PM »
It was something, watching Rocky compete with only one good hand.  His malfunction clearance had to be seen to be believed!  And the use of his "support nub" with a longarm was inspirational as well.  He had obviously at least thought it through.  We gave him a pass on the "shoot offside" stage, but I have no doubt he would have overcome.
The difference between theory and reality is that, in theory, there is no difference between theory and reality.

Rocky

Re: Strong hand becomes weak.
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2014, 12:58:50 PM »
Thanks Tom.   :thumbsup:

   Actually, I’d been practicing all week.
Not too sure about the offside shooting ability as the left “trigger finger’ still does not operate solely today.  :sleeping:

      Shot GL19, GL17, couple of 5.56 Bushy's, 5.56 Scar, 9mm Tavor, S&W 60, 6" .44 SAO and a few more.
The GL's were easy to mag load while holstered, but as Tom mentioned, the FTE brought on re-rack difficulty.
All pistol was dominant hand only in a “sort of” Weaver
The 60 was easy enough but the .44 SAO had no half cock so the chambers had to be perfectly aligned.
      No problem with the Bushy's or Scar, but the left side rack on the Tavor demanded a left arm cradle with Right hand rack.
Fired right handed with left arm inner elbow joint cradling magazine.

Thanks Matt.
Photos are for you.   :shake:
 
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Heavies

Re: Strong hand becomes weak.
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2014, 01:04:30 PM »
Thanks Tom.   :thumbsup:

   Actually, I’d been practicing all week.
Not too sure about the offside shooting ability as the left “trigger finger’ still does not operate solely today.  :sleeping:

      Shot GL19, GL17, couple of 5.56 Bushy's, 5.56 Scar, 9mm Tavor, S&W 60, 6" .44 SAO and a few more.
The GL's were easy to mag load while holstered, but as Tom mentioned, the FTE brought on re-rack difficulty.
All pistol was dominant hand only in a “sort of” Weaver
The 60 was easy enough but the .44 SAO had no half cock so the chambers had to be perfectly aligned.
      No problem with the Bushy's or Scar, but the left side rack on the Tavor demanded a left arm cradle with Right hand rack.
Fired right handed with left arm inner elbow joint cradling magazine.

Thanks Matt.
Photos are for you.   :shake:
 
holey shat!  Praying for a speedy recovery!

macsak

Re: Strong hand becomes weak.
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2014, 01:55:08 PM »
Thanks Tom.   :thumbsup:

   Actually, I’d been practicing all week.
Not too sure about the offside shooting ability as the left “trigger finger’ still does not operate solely today.  :sleeping:

      Shot GL19, GL17, couple of 5.56 Bushy's, 5.56 Scar, 9mm Tavor, S&W 60, 6" .44 SAO and a few more.
The GL's were easy to mag load while holstered, but as Tom mentioned, the FTE brought on re-rack difficulty.
All pistol was dominant hand only in a “sort of” Weaver
The 60 was easy enough but the .44 SAO had no half cock so the chambers had to be perfectly aligned.
      No problem with the Bushy's or Scar, but the left side rack on the Tavor demanded a left arm cradle with Right hand rack.
Fired right handed with left arm inner elbow joint cradling magazine.

Thanks Matt.
Photos are for you.   :shake:

damn
don't mess with rockette!

Rocky

Re: Strong hand becomes weak.
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2014, 06:26:50 PM »
damn
don't mess with rockette!

   Thats a fact.
She keeps my A$$ in line !   :worship:

  ( hopes she's reading your post's again Mac   :crazy: :love:)
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt