The bottom line is that every human being in the world, except for crazy cat, agrees that rifle rounds are lethal beyond 50&150 yards.

 

 

The bottom line is that every human being in the world, except for crazy cat, agrees that rifle rounds are lethal beyond 50&150 yards.

 

 

The bottom line is that every human being in the world, except for crazy cat, agrees that rifle rounds are lethal beyond 50&150 yards.

 

 

LOL..Lethal; sure, I've killed pigs with a .223.  The problem is that sometimes they don't drop, they run off into the forest and I don't find them until they start to smell.

55gr soft points don't penetrate enough, and sometimes (3 times I can remember), they bounce off the skull.  64gr soft points weren't any better.  68gr hollow points deform (but don't fragment, even at 70yds with a 20" barrel) and penetrate about 8", so unless you clip the spinal cord, the pig doesn't go down.  55gr ball actually seems to have the best balance of penetration and expansion; it penetrates about 8" and then blows up, but still doesn't dump enough energy to reliably drop a 150lb pig.

FWIW, I once bounced a 7.62X39 (steel cased, steel jacketed) soft point from an SKS off a pigs skull and had her run off, apparently uninjured. 

LOL..Lethal; sure, I've killed pigs with a .223.  The problem is that sometimes they don't drop, they run off into the forest and I don't find them until they start to smell.

55gr soft points don't penetrate enough, and sometimes (3 times I can remember), they bounce off the skull.  64gr soft points weren't any better.  68gr hollow points deform (but don't fragment, even at 70yds with a 20" barrel) and penetrate about 8", so unless you clip the spinal cord, the pig doesn't go down.  55gr ball actually seems to have the best balance of penetration and expansion; it penetrates about 8" and then blows up, but still doesn't dump enough energy to reliably drop a 150lb pig.

FWIW, I once bounced a 7.62X39 (steel cased, steel jacketed) soft point from an SKS off a pigs skull and had her run off, apparently uninjured.

Than maybe you should start hunting with a pellet gun 




 

Like I said earlier - buy the upper build the lower 

What a bunch of wankers, just build a .7.62/.308 AR and have the best of all worlds, other than light ammo loadout.  A well placed round trumps spray an pray every time.

What a bunch of wankers, just build a .7.62/.308 AR and have the best of all worlds, other than light ammo loadout.  A well placed round trumps spray an pray every time.

I have a RRA LAR-08 with less than 100 rounds through it for the OP.

I have a RRA LAR-08 with less than 100 rounds through it for the OP.

Buy ... build .. it doesn't matter! 

The bad guy will kill you with his Mosin Nagant long before he's within your 50-150 yard effective range anyway!   

Lol. I have a .338 lapua that says otherwise.

 
The bottom line is that every human being in the world, except for crazy cat, agrees that rifle rounds are lethal beyond 50&150 yards. 

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BUILD Good parts are really reasonable now..........

(To all my buddies......My $600 AR is still more accurate that half you guys out there with or without sights! LOL)

Apparently, some people have problems with reading comprehension:

LOL..Lethal; sure, I've killed pigs with a .223.  The problem is that sometimes they don't drop, they run off into the forest and I don't find them until they start to smell.

Apparently, some people have problems with reading comprehension:

But they still die.  Therefore lethal.

But they still die.  Therefore lethal.