Good God, this made my brain hurt listening to this shit......

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Holy crap I give you two mad props for dealing with those idiots.... I could swear I saw steam coming out of your ears at one point.  Hoping to make it to hilo hatties on Wednesday.  Gotta shut these idiots down!

I have to agree with the bias on this segment.

I'm just wondering if I heard correctly, Gabbard is going to introduce Legislation FOR Concealed Carry?  Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

Great job, HiCarry.

This was an extremely biased discussion, and there were tens of questions that were on that table that he clearly avoided.

Who the hell picks these moderators?

I wouldn't call that moron a moderator lol.  And they didn't read my amazing question but wasted time on the typical "i know nothing about guns teach me everything right now" questions.

I have to agree with the bias on this segment.

I'm just wondering if I heard correctly, Gabbard is going to introduce Legislation FOR Concealed Carry?  Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

That's what Harvey said, although I thought she was anti guns.

Thank you HiCarry and Harvey Gerwig, for the awesome representation of the gun community!  You brought many salient points to the table, while the other two brought a bunch of pointless drivel that made no sense and mostly fact less.

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Very good job, Messrs. Gerwig and Richter.  My question (submitted via email) that didn't make the cut:

"Mr. Carlisle mentioned the presence of crystal methamphetamine in Hawaii as a basis to continue to restrict issue of concealed carry permits in Hawaii. My question: does he think a crystal meth addict, or dealer, is currently discouraged from carrying a firearm because he doesn't have a permit? And as a follow on, if Hawaii transitions to a "shall issue" policy, will that addict or dealer go through the process to obtain a carry permit before committing a crime with a firearm?"

I would've LOVED to hear his answer to that.  Messrs.Carlisle and Louie both showed their rabid hoplophobia tonight…

Also, did Mr. Carlisle perhaps open himself up to a slander suit by stating categorically that Christopher Deedy got "shnockered"?  Did I miss where they proved that in court, or presented any actual credible evidence that he was drunk?

OMFreak'nG.

   My head hurts ! 

Thanks HiCarry and Harvey. 
You guys are Soooooooooooooooooo patient. 

They also ignored most of my questions, but they did ask the one I had asked on armed self defense in the home. However, they did not get to the meat of it, which was what would the consequences be for the victim of the home invasion, should they use the firearm to disable the attack...  I really wanted to see what they would say about that one...

I know numbers tend to put people to sleep, but I would've liked to have heard some sourced statistics about the gun violence rate vs. number of states that have shall-issue carry policies to give the lie to the argument that shall-issue=blood in the streets.

My condolences to Harvey and Bill for having to endure listening to two lawyers (former "public servants" at that) who knew almost nothing about the law and even less about firearms and the issues and data surrounding their use. Good grief! JFC!! I commend you two for managing to not have a brain hemorrhage listening to all that irrelevant drivel. Louie stating that Peruta has gone en banc (the vote hasn't been taken, nor announced) and too many other errors or intentional obfuscations to even count... I sent three questions prior to the program (with documenting notes and references), none of which were asked, and probably sent at least 6 emails during the show when the antis said something blatantly contrary to fact. OMG! Having a host who was nearly totally ignorant of the topic didn't help either... sheesh.

I know numbers tend to put people to sleep, but I would've liked to have heard some sourced statistics about the gun violence rate vs. number of states that have shall-issue carry policies to give the lie to the argument that shall-issue=blood in the streets.

My question included statistical comparison between New Hampshire and Hawaii and how even though anyone can own and carry a gun with minimal permitting and zero registration yet NH has less violent crime, property crime and less homicides.

P.S. My English seems to be getting worse...... must be my irresponsible drinking habits.  I'm snockered.

Host: "They had an automatic shotgun."

Bill or Harvey, not sure which: "Semi-automatic."

Host: "Well, you didn't have to pump it.  It went 'BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!'"

 
 
 

I had also posted a Q on how many crimes our registration laws solved or prevented.  My guess, the number is close to ZERO.
 
Also pointed out the Nazis pushed for gun registration, and look where that led...... 
 
 
You may have also noticed how they were adamant on the value of gun registration when it was mentioned Cali started CONFISCATION of previously legal firearms.....  This is where we are headed folks...

I have to agree with the bias on this segment.

I'm just wondering if I heard correctly, Gabbard is going to introduce Legislation FOR Concealed Carry?  Am I getting her mixed up with someone else?

MIKE Gabbard, state senator, who happens to be Tulsi's father. He and senator Slom both submitted CCW bills last session, and I actually liked a couple of minor differences in Gabbard's bill better.

MIKE Gabbard, state senator, who happens to be Tulsi's father. He and senator Slom both submitted CCW bills last session, and I actually liked a couple of minor differences in Gabbard's bill better.

Bahahaha okay that makes a lot more sense.  Slom I know is a suipporter, didn't know about Mike Gabbard.

Did you all also notice how they made like it was "no big deal" to get your rights restored, when you are wrongly or falsely denied?  

I had also posted a Q on how many crimes our registration laws solved or prevented.  My guess, the number is close to ZERO.
 
Also pointed out the Nazis pushed for gun registration, and look where that led...... 
 
 
You may have also noticed how they were adamant on the value of gun registration when it was mentioned Cali started CONFISCATION of previously legal firearms.....  This is where we are headed folks...

Note that Carlisle's defense of no-confiscation-using-registration-information was the standard "it can't happen here". He then went on to assert that anyone who thought it could happen was (borderline?) "delusional". Now THAT'S funny,,, in a really sad pathetic way. He didn't seem to have any response when it was pointed out that some states are already doing that exact thing, and Louie chimed in that just because you have a gun that was once legal and registered, if the state decides that it is now illegal to possess that gun, what's the problem with the state coming to get it? These guys are dense, or just your run of the mill socialists, but I repeat myself.