Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii? (Read 51087 times)

Q

Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:40:33 PM »
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Heavies

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 07:03:03 AM »
How would they get their government freebies if they renounce?  heh.......

one2boost

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 07:33:03 AM »
So did those guys driving around Maui with the yellow license plates and the ones on Kauai driving around with the black license plates (not sure I ever seen any on Oahu or the Big Island) all of which claiming the sovereignty and/or lineage; did all of them renounce their US Citizenship?

Q

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2015, 02:16:03 PM »
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mauidog

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2015, 02:49:23 PM »
Nope.

I almost got into a serious confrontation because a group of them (that had a yellow license plate from the nation of atooi) parked their shitty SUV in the handicap stall without a placard, and made a guy with double crutches walk all the way across the parking lot through giant water puddles.

When asked where their placard was, they stated they don't follow American law, so they park where they want.

Funny.  Go to any other country and tell them there, "I'm not from here, so I don't have to follow your laws if I don't want to."  See how long that crap lasts!

Hawaii is still a US state.  Even if you feel you're part of some non-existent fairytale kingdom, you're still bound by the laws of the land unless you have diplomatic immunity.  I'm pretty sure the fairytale kingdom doesn't issue those credentials!    :rofl:
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

ren

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2015, 05:05:53 PM »
Nope.

I almost got into a serious confrontation because a group of them (that had a yellow license plate from the nation of atooi) parked their shitty SUV in the handicap stall without a placard, and made a guy with double crutches walk all the way across the parking lot through giant water puddles.

When asked where their placard was, they stated they don't follow American law, so they park where they want.
lazy ass cowards.
Do that in N Korea and they strap a 60mm mortar to ya...
so in that case if their car/home gets burglarized, stolen who they gonna call?
since they don't recognize our laws deny them use of our infrastructure and services...Im a tax payer, a vet and a US law-abiding citizen - its a slap in our faces
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hvybarrels

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 10:21:44 PM »
Technically if you are intent on doing your part to bankrupt the system it costs the state more to keep you locked up than it does to cut benefit checks, but in prison the money goes to some corporate dick to fuel up his private jet when we all know it would be better spent on your beer fund.
The F in Communism stands for Food

Q

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2015, 12:20:57 AM »
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mauidog

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2015, 12:33:26 AM »
Technically if you are intent on doing your part to bankrupt the system it costs the state more to keep you locked up than it does to cut benefit checks, but in prison the money goes to some corporate dick to fuel up his private jet when we all know it would be better spent on your beer fund.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

ren

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 06:18:19 AM »
Technically if you are intent on doing your part to bankrupt the system it costs the state more to keep you locked up than it does to cut benefit checks, but in prison the money goes to some corporate dick to fuel up his private jet when we all know it would be better spent on your beer fund.
I dont think you passed any type of background check.
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ImKu

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 06:34:33 AM »
Nope.

I almost got into a serious confrontation because a group of them (that had a yellow license plate from the nation of atooi) parked their shitty SUV in the handicap stall without a placard, and made a guy with double crutches walk all the way across the parking lot through giant water puddles.

When asked where their placard was, they stated they don't follow American law, so they park where they want.

If you don't mind me asking, was it a light colored Expedition with a very heavy set individual?
The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it.
- Bhagavad Gita

dustoff003

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2015, 08:45:01 AM »
My old neighbor in Waianae has PK of Atooi plates on his truck. Funny how PKA's website is a .com

Q

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2015, 08:59:12 AM »
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hvybarrels

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2015, 01:02:52 PM »
What the hell are you talking about?

Resistance through non-violent means is confusing to people who are obsessed with domination and violence, which is why it has the potential to work so well. When all you have in your toolbox is a hammer everything looks like a nail.
The F in Communism stands for Food

mauidog

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2015, 01:08:27 PM »
Resistance through non-violent means is confusing to people who are obsessed with domination and violence, which is why it has the potential to work so well. When all you have in your toolbox is a hammer everything looks like a nail.

Non-violent resistance is great if you don't mind being oppressed for a few centuries before anything positive happens.  Not to mention, by then, you'll be lucky if the bloodline hasn't been diluted so much, there won't be anyone with enough Hawaiian blood to lay claim to any "throne" or leadership role.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

hvybarrels

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2015, 01:57:03 PM »
Non-violent resistance is great if you don't mind being oppressed for a few centuries before anything positive happens.  Not to mention, by then, you'll be lucky if the bloodline hasn't been diluted so much, there won't be anyone with enough Hawaiian blood to lay claim to any "throne" or leadership role.

It's true that it might not work, but when the choices the dominant culture gives are either unconditional surrender or annihilation then sometimes it's best to pick option 3. You may not see the promised land but if your great great grandkids do then it will be worth it.
The F in Communism stands for Food

mauidog

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2015, 04:05:04 PM »
It's true that it might not work, but when the choices the dominant culture gives are either unconditional surrender or annihilation then sometimes it's best to pick option 3. You may not see the promised land but if your great great grandkids do then it will be worth it.

You might want to start thinking the same way the nation of Israel chose, which helped them survive through today.

A "nation" is not technically a piece of land.  It's a people with the same language, customs, culture, and societal norms.

Even after the Jews of Israel were freed from captivity in Egypt, they had no place to settle.  So they became nomads.  Where they lived was not as important as how they lived, and who they lived among.

Geopolitical boundaries change quite often, but the bonds that tie a nation together are much stronger and last longer.

Therefore, instead of passively remaining in Hawaii, hoping one day someone will pity the Hawaiians enough to give them the keys to the kingdom again, perhaps it would be smarter to find another location to live in peace, preserve your culture, and wait for a time when you, too, can return to the "promised land" of your people

For some reason, Las Vegas comes to mind ...  :P
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

Inspector

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2015, 04:30:39 PM »
Don't FEED the Trolls.  :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc:
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ren

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2015, 04:35:00 PM »
It's true that it might not work, but when the choices the dominant culture gives are either unconditional surrender or annihilation then sometimes it's best to pick option 3. You may not see the promised land but if your great great grandkids do then it will be worth it.

Did you eat paint chips when you were young?
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Q

Re: Why Won't Anti-Americans Renounce Citizenship in Hawaii?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2015, 06:33:03 PM »
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