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HONOLULU POLICE CHIEF AND STATE OF HAWAII SUED FOR SECOND AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS (Read 376030 times)

Hi state

Ok mahalos for the heads up

Funtimes

Ok mahalos for the heads up

Please note the quotation marks ;). They are "air quotes" :P
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Anubis

...Should be "two weeks."

Don't hold your breath waiting for an opinion.  A similar case was argued 2011 Nov 17 in the 10th Circuit in Denver, then re-argued 2012 Mar 19, and still no opinion has been issued.

(Brief description: the court's case number is 11-1164, Peterson v. Martinez.  Peterson sued because his out-of-state concealed-carry permit is not recognized in Colorado.  He could carry openly elsewhere in Colorado, no permit required, but in Denver open carry is not legal; therefore his right to "bear" is infringed.  Argued last March by the awesome Alan Gura.)
located in Arapahoe County, CO

Pilaboy

Outstanding!!!  :shaka: :geekdanc:
Right to bear arms.

Funtimes

Don't hold your breath waiting for an opinion.  A similar case was argued 2011 Nov 17 in the 10th Circuit in Denver, then re-argued 2012 Mar 19, and still no opinion has been issued.

(Brief description: the court's case number is 11-1164, Peterson v. Martinez.  Peterson sued because his out-of-state concealed-carry permit is not recognized in Colorado.  He could carry openly elsewhere in Colorado, no permit required, but in Denver open carry is not legal; therefore his right to "bear" is infringed.  Argued last March by the awesome Alan Gura.)

I think you missed the "air quotes"
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Anubis

I noted the quotes indicating 2 weeks was a joke.  I was demonstrating that it could literally take years to get a ruling, which could be considered a bigger joke.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2013, 09:50:19 AM by Anubis »
located in Arapahoe County, CO

Funtimes

I noted the quotes indicating 2 weeks was a joke.  I was demonstrating that it could literally take years to get a ruling, which could be considered a bigger joke.

We are on a preliminary injunction, so we don't expect it to take nearly that long. Standard is about 3-6 months.
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danwrx

Keep up the good news...  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
"To disarm the people... was the best and most effectual way to enslave them."

armsinc

good luck chris :D :D :D :D
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PeaShooter

Wow, sounds like this lawsuit fared a lot better in appeals court, congratulations! I would not be surprised at all now if some changes result after this. Best of luck.

new guy

« Last Edit: August 25, 2016, 05:17:36 PM by new guy »
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Funtimes

Bruddah Funtimes, have you or your attorney received any updates?  :shaka:

When we know :) you will know.   These things take a lonnnnnng time =(.   I'm thinking about summer time?
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new guy

« Last Edit: August 25, 2016, 05:17:52 PM by new guy »
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Funtimes

Understood... just wanted to keep this issue at the forefront of our minds.  :thumbsup:

And, because we're three months post-oral arguments, I was hoping there was might be some kind of news.

Will standby for updates!!

I wish brother, I wish.... one way or another - no matter which way it goes, I just want to know.

It's been a long two years of slugging and fighting this stuff.  I've gotten gray hairs, and given up a lot.  My fingers are crossed! :thumbsup:
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Jaydawg

There was a small mention of Baker vs. Kealoha in the March 2013 issue of American Rifleman, page 18.

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Also heard before the Ninth Circuit were arguments in Baker v. Kealoha, a non-NRA case that challenges Hawaii's near-complete ban on the issuance of concealed carry permits.  Hawaii's statute says that a concealed carry permit shall be issued only "in exceptional case" or "where urgency or need has been sufficiently indicated," and gives police chiefs arbitrary power to decide whose case is "exceptional." (In practice, no permits are ever issued, a fact that the government's attorney carefully dodged during the argument.)
« Last Edit: March 13, 2013, 01:34:42 AM by Jaydawg »

SOLEsource684

Just read through all that legal jargon best of luck. Please provide the forum with updates to your case. I think it is a great step to allowing concealed/open carry within the state of Hawaii.

Best of Luck!

MMA10mm

To my brothers and sisters in paradise:  Stick with the fight!

I live in Illinois, the only state with NO concealed carry (period - not even "lip-service" to it in the state laws w/ police Chiefs who never issue, such as in your state).  We can't even apply to be denied... :(

However, our state rifle association just helped win a case in Court and the Judge ordered that if the state legislature did not enact a CCW law by June, by judicial edict (order), we could legally carry!!  (I kind-of hope the legislature, which is controlled by corrupt, far-left democrats, doesn't get its act together, because they will probably make a restrictive law...)

Anyway - I wanted you all to know that there might be light at the end of the tunnel!  Hawaii and the west coast federal appeals courts seem to be very left-leaning, so the battle may be hard, but with Heller and other recent US Supreme Court decisions, I think you'd win this if you had to appeal all the way to SCOTUS.

Good luck!!

new guy

« Last Edit: August 24, 2016, 06:14:41 PM by new guy »
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Funtimes

What news from the Ninth Curcuit, bruddah Funtimes??

Still nada?

 :shaka:

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DuDuBoi

Soooo, anything yet?