It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know. (Read 6201 times)

ren

It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« on: February 26, 2015, 06:28:43 PM »
I sure hope we can get the results we would've expected from former Senator Inouye - our State needs it!

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/28216166/gabbard-hires-chief-of-staff-with-no-government-or-congressional-experience
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edster48

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2015, 07:18:18 PM »
No one is going to get the "results" Inouye did. He spent his entire political life mastering the art of wrapping up pork and sending it to Hawaii.

They didn't call him the "one armed bandit" for nothing.

IMHO, the fact that an elected official has to have people that " know how things work in DC" is a huge part of the problem. The rules, while not simple, have been around since the inception of congress. The problem is all the backroom dealing, payoffs, and just flat deceitfulness practiced by our legislators. To their own benefit, not ours. Being able to navigate this labyrinth of corruption and dishonesty shouldn't be something that's rewarded.
That's how we ended up with the government we have now.

Personally, I think it's a good idea to get away from the status quo, our form of government was meant to be "by the people, for the people". We could use some non political types in the mix to, hopefully, bring some logic and reason back into our government.
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Tom_G

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2015, 10:35:09 PM »
Wouldn't it be amazing if we could magically remove every. Single. Incumbent.  Plus their entire staff.  Plus every lobbyist.  Every clerk.  Completely empty the halls of our national government, including the sanitation workers, and put all new people in there with just the rules to guide them?
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Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 01:11:25 AM »
Wouldn't it be amazing if we could magically remove every. Single. Incumbent.  Plus their entire staff.  Plus every lobbyist.  Every clerk.  Completely empty the halls of our national government, including the sanitation workers, and put all new people in there with just the rules to guide them?
well didn't senator gabbard just do that in Washington? She hired a local boy who has never had any political background and people's panties are bunched up questioning how come??? Why why why... haha need more of that right tom :thumbsup: I'm with you... give me the rules and I'll go haha

edster48

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2015, 05:36:26 AM »
Wouldn't it be amazing if we could magically remove every. Single. Incumbent.  Plus their entire staff.  Plus every lobbyist.  Every clerk.  Completely empty the halls of our national government, including the sanitation workers, and put all new people in there with just the rules to guide them?

Yep, reboot the government.
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Heavies

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2015, 07:08:07 AM »
First thing, they need to follow the original rule book!

Inspector

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2015, 07:47:24 AM »
One other thing we need to keep in mind. These people are supposed to be Civil Servants and NOT Professional Politicians. We need to reduce their salaries to the national average of around $43k per year. And limit the amount of help they can hire. On top of that they need to pay Federal and District Taxes as well as the State Taxes from where they come from. But the biggest thing is they need to buy their health insurance through the Obama Care website. Only then will we get representatives that WANT to do this job for the sake and benefit of the country.

If we don't take away the exorbitant salaries and perks that they have voted themselves over the last 60 years we will see the same greed and power grabs that attract these Professional Politicians to DC in the first place. JMHO
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punaperson

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2015, 09:21:09 AM »
One other thing we need to keep in mind. These people are supposed to be Civil Servants and NOT Professional Politicians. We need to reduce their salaries to the national average of around $43k per year. And limit the amount of help they can hire. On top of that they need to pay Federal and District Taxes as well as the State Taxes from where they come from. But the biggest thing is they need to buy their health insurance through the Obama Care website. Only then will we get representatives that WANT to do this job for the sake and benefit of the country.

If we don't take away the exorbitant salaries and perks that they have voted themselves over the last 60 years we will see the same greed and power grabs that attract these Professional Politicians to DC in the first place. JMHO
You left out term limits. I'd prefer one term. All terms of office two years (as in New Hampshire). Committee chair assignments by random lottery rather than "seniority", since there wouldn't be any. Otherwise, when was the last time you saw any politicians voting to "take away the[ir] exorbitant salaries and perks"?

Inspector

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2015, 09:38:19 AM »
You left out term limits. I'd prefer one term. All terms of office two years (as in New Hampshire). Committee chair assignments by random lottery rather than "seniority", since there wouldn't be any. Otherwise, when was the last time you saw any politicians voting to "take away the[ir] exorbitant salaries and perks"?
Agreed that term limits under the current circumstances makes a lot of sense. However, if we ever get a Federal Government that truly represents the people I am not sure strict term limits would be necessary. I think looser term limits might be in order.  :thumbsup:
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Jl808

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2015, 10:22:29 AM »
Did you guys see a unicorn somewhere?
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Inspector

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2015, 10:49:08 AM »
Did you guys see a unicorn somewhere?
Hey, it's Tom's fault. He started it!!!  :rofl:
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punaperson

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2015, 11:41:44 AM »
Did you guys see a unicorn somewhere?
Yeah, right next to the huge pile of recently approved Hawaii CCW licenses due to be mailed out next week.  :shaka:

Heavies

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2015, 04:58:18 PM »
Pick the apple from the orchard, rather than the rotten barrel?

ren

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2015, 06:06:03 PM »
thanks for the perspectives :thumbsup:
I didn't see it from all the angles
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macsak

Re: It's not WHAT you know but WHO you know.
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2015, 07:37:16 PM »
thanks for the perspectives :thumbsup:
I didn't see it from all the angles

this explains why tulsi hired a washington outsider for chief of staff
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/14721/Tulsi-Gabbard-Hires-Cult-Associate-as-Chief-of-Staff.aspx?utm_source=March+1%2C+2015+News+from+Hawaii+Free+Press+&utm_campaign=March+1%2C+2015+Email&utm_medium=email
read the other links to see more about tulsi and the butler cult