Self Protection (Read 30570 times)

Drakiir84

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2015, 01:14:23 PM »
Bota. I am not going argue my case against an idiot like you. You have never owned a dog have you? I can see that already. I am a long time hunter, having killed wild boars with knives and dogs. I have even captured some with bare hands, had one that stopped breathing and then I revived it. I know where to place a good fist hit to kill a hog. Really, don't think I know nothing about animals.  If this forum is going to rally for unnecessary animal deaths, then I quit this forum. I will not be coming back on.

Realistically speaking I don't think your 5 posts will be missed all that much but that's besides the point.  I think some members have been a little gung-ho in their imagining of scenarios involving dog attacks and I said as much above.  While I do agree with you I simply addressed the legality of carrying knives in public. 

The bottom line is that if a normal Joe that doesn't have the dog whispering skills that you seem to possess is attacked and knocked to the ground their options become limited and I wouldn't put a dogs life above my own.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

Bota-CS1

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2015, 01:22:40 PM »
Bota. I am not going argue my case against an idiot like you. You have never owned a dog have you? I can see that already. I am a long time hunter, having killed wild boars with knives and dogs. I have even captured some with bare hands, had one that stopped breathing and then I revived it. I know where to place a good fist hit to kill a hog. Really, don't think I know nothing about animals.

Yeah, I have.  All were proudly adopted from the Humane Society - except for one we got from a breeder  Your knowledge of animals is not what I am questioning.  You make not being a victim as easy as side stepping a crack in the side walk.  So let's say you do manage to push the dog's head aside, then what?  You're back where you started.

  If this forum is going to rally for unnecessary animal deaths, then I quit this forum. I will not be coming back on.


WTF?   Where are you getting this from?  Most of the posts had to do with people and their suggestions to the OP.  I think you're overreacting. 
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.

mauidog

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2015, 01:52:37 PM »
Man, if I see a pitbull running at me in attack mode, I'm sure as hell not going to wait and see if I can convince him I'm his friend!  Not all pits are vicious, but when one decides to do bad things, they are bent on finishing what they started.  Their jaws are vices, and you'll have a tough time getting them off you once they get a hold.

in this scenario, I'll use whatever it takes to keep me safe.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

one2boost

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2015, 02:13:57 PM »
I was never lucky enough to be taught the Jedi mind tricks, nor dog whispering.  I will just do what is comfortable with me.

stangzilla

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2015, 03:59:08 PM »
I know where to place a good fist hit to kill a hog. 


do not mess with this guy.
this guy knows the piggy Dim Mak!  ;)

one2boost

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2015, 08:57:55 PM »

do not mess with this guy.
this guy knows the piggy Dim Mak!  ;)

But, HE IS NOT A TANAKA!!!....  LOL!!!...

dogman

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2015, 10:13:52 PM »
Really guys and gals. Are you so blood thirsty at knifing or shooting a dog that you don't know whether tame or not?
Bota, I'm not Gregg. So you think it is OK to just hurt an animal that may be somebody's pet? Read carefully at what I wrote . I guess fear is all you can think off and killing the animal is the solution.
If one of my dogs were hit by a car on a city street because he or she was running loose, I wouldn't blame the driver of the car, I would blame myself for not having control of my dog. Several years ago, I had to confront four blue and whites that were called because of my loose dogs. It happens, rarely, but it happens. The officers and the neighbors told me "wow your dogs are really nice but they look scary". You cannot blame someone for wanting to defend themselves from an unknown "attacker". If you have a pet it is your responsibility to keep him or her safe. While walking my dogs, on leash, there have been several occasions with loose dogs or dogs jumping over their enclosures, including pitbulls, and charging my dogs, in all but one instance the results were a lot of butt sniffing (dogs, not me). In the one instance, with a pitbull, where there was actually a dog fight, the owner of the other dog got control of his pet before there were any injuries. If the pitbull were to get a hold of my dog, a knife would have come out and I would have done whatever necessary to protect my pet. I do not consider myself or others that have posted on this topic "blood thirsty".

RSN172

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2015, 10:14:36 PM »
I have 4 Rottweilers living in my house and I cannot imagine anyone trying to defend themself from a canine like that by pushing their head away,   I think they would lose their hand and arm in the process.
A dog's paws can also inflict damage.  FYI a pitbull has a bite force of 235 lbs, 71% of a Rottweiler.
Happily living in Puna

one2boost

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2015, 06:11:46 AM »
Maybe I should go back to my old school roots and try walking around with a knife and fork.  Then when confronted with a dog, whip out utensils, say "come here fuffy...", "I want some adobo..."  Maybe the dog will associate the old Filipino stereotype in the vid below.

HiCarry

Re: Self Protection
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2015, 03:40:25 PM »
Try one of these.

http://www.topairgun.com/repeating-pcp-air-pistols

It will kill and is not a firearm.  Pricey, but hey, it's cheaper than
the emergency room.   I'd paint the barrel orange just in case.
been too many Americans beat up and shot lately.

Carrying around an airgun on your hip, or attached to you bike, would be illegal.

Sec. 41-8.1 Definitions.

"Air gun" means any gun, rifle or pistol, by whatever name known, which is designed to expel a pellet or BB shot by the
action of compressed air or gas, or by the action of a spring or elastic but does not include any firearm.

"Dealer" means any person engaged in the business of selling or renting air guns. (Sec. 13-19.1, R.O. 1978 (1983 Ed.))

Sec. 41-8.2 Restrictions on sale, rental, gift or other transfer.

(a) It is unlawful for any dealer to sell, lend, rent, give or otherwise transfer an air gun to any person under the age of 18 years
where the dealer knows or has reasonable cause to believe the person to be under 18 years of age or where the dealer has
failed to make reasonable inquiry relative to the age of such person and such person is under 18 years of age.

(b) It is unlawful for any person to sell, lend, rent, give or otherwise transfer any air gun to any person under 18 years of age,
except where the relationship of parent and child, guardian and ward, or adult instructor and pupil exists between such
person and the person under 18 years of age.
(Sec. 13-19.2, R.O. 1978 (1983 Ed.))

Sec. 41-8.3 Restrictions on use.

(a) It is unlawful for any person to carry or display an air gun on any street, alley, public road or on any public land, unless the
air gun is unloaded and in a suitable case or securely wrapped.


(b) It is unlawful for any person to discharge any air gun from or across any street, sidewalk, alley or public land, or any public
place except on a properly constructed target range.

(c) It is unlawful for any person to discharge any air gun on any private parcel of land or residence in such a manner that the
pellet or BB shot may reasonably be expected to traverse any ground or space outside the limits of such parcel of land or
residence or in such a manner that persons or property may be endangered; provided, that nothing in this article shall be
deemed to prevent any person who has obtained a hunting license pursuant to HRS Chapter 183D from engaging in
hunting in accordance with law.

(d) It is unlawful for any person to discharge any air gun in such a manner or under such circumstances that persons or
property may be endangered.

(Sec. 13-19.3, R.O. 1978 (1983 Ed.); Am. Ord. 96-58, 03-23)