The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act (Read 20131 times)

suka

The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« on: April 14, 2015, 01:25:41 AM »
The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act is found under, Hawaii Revised Statutes 91 (HRS).  According, under the Act, an agency has to comply with the rule-making requirements imposed by law.  The rule-making requirements include:

1)Adoption as a rule a report of method by which a person can obtain information, make submittals and requests;
2)Adoption of rules of practice setting forth the requirements of all formal and informal procedures available;
3)Description of all forms and instructions used by the agency;
4)Making available for public inspection all documents used by the agency in discharging its functions;
5)Making available for public inspection all final opinions and orders.
6)An agency rule, order or opinion will be valid only if it is published or made available for public inspection.  Each state agency must make available on the official website of the lieutenant governor each proposed rule-making action of the agency, full text of agency’s proposed rules or changes to existing rules.










According to HRS § 91-3, an agency before adoption, amendment or repeal of a rule must give at least 30 days’ notice for a public hearing.  The notice must contain the statement of the topic and copy of the proposed rule, when and where the rule to be adopted, amended or repealed and the time and place of public hearing.  Each rule adopted, amended or repealed will become effective ten days after filing it with the lieutenant governor if it is a state and with the county clerks if it is a county.  Also HRS § 91-5 provides that each agency shall compile, index, and publish all rules adopted by the agency and remaining in effect.   

Further according to HRS § 91-6, any interested person can petition the agency for the adoption, amendment or repeal of any rule.  Within 30 days after the receipt of the petition, the agency can either initiate proceedings for rule-making or can deny it stating the reasons for denial in writing.

HRS § 91-7 provides that any interested person can seek declaratory judgment as to the validity of an agency by bringing in an action in the circuit court of the county in which petitioner resides or has its principal place of business.  The court can then declare the rule invalid if it violates constitutional or statutory provisions, exceeds the statutory authority of the agency, or was adopted without compliance with statutory rule-making procedures.  Also HRS § 91-8 provides that any interested person can petition an agency for a declaratory order as to the applicability of any statutory provision, rule or order of the agency.

In a contested case, each party must be afforded with an opportunity for hearing after giving a reasonable notice.  The notice must contain the following:

The date, time, place and the nature of hearing;
Legal authority under which the hearing will be held;
Specific sections of the rules and statutes involved;
Statement of the facts and issues involved;
The fact that a party can retain a counsel if s/he desires.
In a contested case, every agency must consider the whole record or such portions thereof, cited by any party as reliable, probative, and substantial evidence before imposing a rule or issuing an order.  Any oral or documentary evidence can be received by the agency but the agency must provide for the exclusion of irrelevant, immaterial or unduly repetitious evidence.  Further in a contested case, a final decision of the agency which adversely affects the other party will be made only after providing to the other party a statement containing determination of each issue of facts or law necessary to the proposed decision.  An opportunity has been afforded to each party adversely affected to file exceptions and present argument to the officials who are to render the decision, who will personally consider the whole record or such portions thereof as may be cited by the parties.

Further according to HRS § 91-14, any person aggrieved by a final decision in a contested case is entitled to judicial review by the circuit court.  This will not prevent the person from resorting to a trail by jury as provided by law.  “Person aggrieved” also includes an agency who is a party to the contested case before that agency or another agency.

HRS § 91-14 provides that if the application of any provision of this Act to any person or circumstance is invalid, it does not mean that other provisions are also invalid.  Other provisions are not affected by the invalidity and can be given effect without the invalid provision.  Therefore, the provisions of this Act are severable.





http://files.hawaii.gov/dcca/oah/hrs/hrs_oah_91.pdf
« Last Edit: April 14, 2015, 01:40:53 AM by suka »

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2015, 05:14:34 PM »
Good information to know but I am not totally sure why you are posting it. What context is there? What rule should we or are we considering appealing using this method?

edster48

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2015, 06:23:43 PM »
HPD has a bad habit of making up the rules as they go along, this shows that it's illegal.   :thumbsup:
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Unless you can be a pirate.
Then always be a pirate.

suka

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2015, 09:36:32 PM »
HPD has a bad habit of making up the rules as they go along, this shows that it's illegal.   :thumbsup:
that is correct!

nathanm14fan

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2015, 07:15:35 AM »
suka,

Are you planning on notifying HPD of their (many) on-the-fly rules? Any specific examples you can give?

Jdelacruz

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2015, 08:05:08 AM »
So who should we contact to let them know our complaint about HPD Firearms Division? Personally I have not experienced any of their shenanigans but I'd be glad to help support those who have.

suka

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2015, 11:33:50 AM »
helping a guy out on the big island.

his non detachable AR pistol was confiscated pending review. it has been several month now.

this is far cheaper (FREE) than a full lawsuit.

nathanm14fan

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 12:53:49 PM »
They confiscated it when he attempted to register? Wow....

The lack of codified rules concerning what defines a "detachable" magazine kills me. Bullet button works fine in CA, but not here according to HPD and whomever is at/behind the counter.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2015, 09:49:06 PM »
Was it the bullet button issue? I figure they probably took the gun until they can figure out a legal opinion or basis to say for sure whether it counts or not. I am surprised the bullet button passed muster in California and I doubt it will for Hawaii.

suka

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2015, 10:14:52 PM »
The magazine was welded.

suka

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2015, 10:15:45 PM »
They confiscated it when he attempted to register? Wow....

The lack of codified rules concerning what defines a "detachable" magazine kills me. Bullet button works fine in CA, but not here according to HPD and whomever is at/behind the counter.


yes

xer 21

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2015, 10:37:24 PM »
The magazine was welded.

then that's double bullshit.

suka

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2015, 10:41:05 PM »
from Spacegoat




Short answer on the Big Island is-NO-
1st-no way to "register" an 80%-Hawaii County does not have the "drop down" menu for self built manufactured...so it is not allowable to be registered
2nd-the LT. Who interprets the HRS. Does not have the time to look at it to determine if it complies with HRS..."different counties follow different rules on what is allowed, and since I am the in Hawaii county who says so and I am in Hilo, your in Kona, and I won't be there for a month, we ( HPD) are probably going to destroy it".-they held it as soon as I took it in to register.

He has not returned calls to date.

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Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2015, 10:45:15 PM »
"Oh, 'we' can't let 'you' have that !"



This is what goes through every bureaucrat's mind regarding the internet:

"That damned internet is going to ruin our ability to make up arbitrary and capricious rules and regs.  Now we have to jump through all kinds of legal hoops instead of just 'them.' "

No wonder "they" want to control it like a public utility.  As it is now, just "everyone" can read the rules and regs about making rules and regs.

Tough noogies for the lawyers or bureaucrats or the folks behind the counter.

Thanks, OP !

Terry, 230RN
I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

Heavies

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2015, 04:39:59 AM »
from Spacegoat




Short answer on the Big Island is-NO-
1st-no way to "register" an 80%-Hawaii County does not have the "drop down" menu for self built manufactured...so it is not allowable to be registered
2nd-the LT. Who interprets the HRS. Does not have the time to look at it to determine if it complies with HRS..."different counties follow different rules on what is allowed, and since I am the in Hawaii county who says so and I am in Hilo, your in Kona, and I won't be there for a month, we ( HPD) are probably going to destroy it".-they held it as soon as I took it in to register.

He has not returned calls to date.


That is massed up, and theft of private property with no due process.  Hope this goes all the way and justice is served.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2015, 05:26:36 PM »
If he really didn't know he should have let the guy take the gun. If he found later it was illegal then he could have the guy turn it in or sell it to a FFL. If a cop is unsure of the law he has to enforce then it is better to under act  than over act.

If the magazine was actually welded in there I can't believe they would have a problem with it.

This makes me worried about making a pump action AR pistol...

bass monkey

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2015, 07:38:54 PM »
If he really didn't know he should have let the guy take the gun. If he found later it was illegal then he could have the guy turn it in or sell it to a FFL. If a cop is unsure of the law he has to enforce then it is better to under act  than over act.

If the magazine was actually welded in there I can't believe they would have a problem with it.

This makes me worried about making a pump action AR pistol...


Why not call the ATF and have them send out people to make a assessment of the rifle, or for definitions about what is unclear.  HPD has done that before.  If you don't know, ask your supervisor or boss, and if they don't know, have them call their boss.  We already took the day off to make a trip down to the PD to register our rifles, Im sure most wont mind waiting while they figure it out.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2015, 08:25:17 AM »
Why not just allow them to register guns at any station?

nathanm14fan

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2015, 09:44:34 AM »
Why not just allow them to register guns at any station?

Only Honolulu PD has that requirement. Neighbor islands allow registration at any station.

bass monkey

Re: The Hawaii Administrative Procedure Act
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2015, 10:52:53 AM »
Why not just allow them to register guns at any station?

That still doesn't solve the problem of the police department making up rules and confiscating weapons they feel don't follow the law.
And as mentioned, registration at a single location is only an Oahu issue