Im looking for another ar-15. Cant decide on where to invest my money. The problem here is there are different types. DI vs piston. Different barrel profiles and types. I read online but i dont know whos talking truth or fan boys leading the train. The other problem is they are at different price points. Looking for a good, accurate, shtf gun. But at the same time best bang for your buck.I know proprietary parts are going to be another issue.
Options are-
1. HK Mr556 or Comp556
2. Noveske Spr or Rogue Hunter
3. JP Enterprises Jp-15
4. Larue Tactical Predatar
5. LWRC SPR IC
6. FN SCAR 16
7. Knights Armament Sr-15

If you can choose one and give feedback on why you would choose that one? Or if there are other options that i havent listed then im all ears. The only ARs i've shoot were bushmasters and stags. So looking to upgrade. Thanks for taking the time to visit this thread and giving my info.

LRWC are giving away Aimpoint T1, with purchase Apr. 15 - 31, OGC has them in stock, that's a great bang for your buck.

 

Get the SCAR.

It's just a phenomenal rifle.

Knights Armament is top of the line but proprietary so maybe a slight knock in shtf scenario. Would still be my choice though.

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All are top of the line but the lwrc with the free aimpoint is a good deal. I'd hop on it if I if I was in the market. If you don't like the aimpoint sell it. Then you just saved $600 on your LWRC. 

Im looking for another ar-15. Cant decide on where to invest my money. The problem here is there are different types. DI vs piston. Different barrel profiles and types. I read online but i dont know whos talking truth or fan boys leading the train. The other problem is they are at different price points. Looking for a good, accurate, shtf gun. But at the same time best bang for your buck.I know proprietary parts are going to be another issue.
Options are-
1. HK Mr556 or Comp556
2. Noveske Spr or Rogue Hunter
3. JP Enterprises Jp-15
4. Larue Tactical Predatar
5. LWRC SPR IC
6. FN SCAR 16
7. Knights Armament Sr-15

If you can choose one and give feedback on why you would choose that one? Or if there are other options that i havent listed then im all ears. The only ARs i've shoot were bushmasters and stags. So looking to upgrade. Thanks for taking the time to visit this thread and giving my info.

the Scar isnt even an ar 15.  and that point, might as well cross shop a Sig 556XI, a Tavor or an SL8 for a G36 conversion.


that said, the LWRC gets a free aimpoint, and that's serious value.

LRWC are giving away Aimpoint T1, with purchase Apr. 15 - 31, OGC has them in stock, that's a great bang for your buck.

Ive seen the ad. but i dont want to base my buy off of the rebate.

Knights Armament is top of the line but proprietary so maybe a slight knock in shtf scenario. Would still be my choice though.

The MR556 would also be proprietary, mags can be a pain but the emags i believe work.

 

Get the SCAR.

It's just a phenomenal rifle.

What about the scar do you like so much? Ive read great things about the 17 as for accuracy with barrel being pencil barrel profile.

 

 Have you try building them?  You can build all kind you want even a ar-15 pistol. Never mind those brand names make you own.

Never put a ar-15 together and would hate to spend big bucks on parts and then screw it up and end up having someone else finish it for me. Dont have any of the tools also which would make the build more expensive.
 

the Scar isnt even an ar 15.  and that point, might as well cross shop a Sig 556XI, a Tavor or an SL8 for a G36 conversion.


that said, the LWRC gets a free aimpoint, and that's serious value.

Ok maybe i should of said s.a. rifle in .223/5.56 cal.  I put the scar 16 cause that interests me, the sig not so much and the tavor i didnt care for. I tried sourcing a sl8. Found one at gun source but he wants 2500, then to get the parts and send to tom bosic would run the build even higher. With the new news about the hk243 i think id rather wait on that vs building a sl8 clone.

Over $1700 for an AR and you get into diminishing returns. If you want something really special, work with a local gun shop/gunsmith to assemble a rifle from the parts you provide. Also there is a lot of cool stuff coming later this year from Remington Defense when they start selling to civilians and IWI has the galil that will eventually release in 762nato. Also, you can start praying that HK brings the HK243 (Civilian G36) stateside which they are trying to do.

From your list and statements it looks like you are looking for precision first and accuracy standard often lies within the shooters skill, ammo selection and the shooters idea of what is acceptable.  What follows is not 100% accurate to every single barrel or every single rifle as there can be variances from barrel to barrel and rifle to rifle. 

In general, pencil or the lightweight profile barrels are not as accurate once the barrel gets heated up.  There tends to be a point of impact shift and group sizes generally increase.  There are 2 schools of thought on this in that generally in a precision rifle, rate of fire tends to be slower, definitely at KKHD on the rifle side, the rate of fire will be slower if you are following the rules.  Because of the slower rate of fire the barrel will not heat as quickly.  Some people quite frankly might not be able to hold a group tight enough to notice a difference.  The other thought, is that if it did come to an up close situation where you need to "pound rounds", then you are probably close enough that the shift in precision is not going to be noticed.  The other elephant in the room is weight.  Are you going to be humping it for hours on end, or not.  If not, weight savings is a lesser consideration and I would accept small added weight for a barrel type and profile of my choice.  For myself in a precision set up in an AR/M4 pattern rifle I prefer a LW SS barrel 14.5" - 18" and 16" would be a good happy medium.  If you are wanting longer range, say past 600, the 5.56 will do it, but you should really step up in caliber.

If you are worried about proprietary, or looking for more commonality, interchangeability and availability of parts, then that greatly narrows your list and would move you in the direction of gas impingement in the AR/M4 pattern rifle.  While I am not a big fan of a gas piston in an AR/M4 pattern rifle, it is hard to ignore the LWRC / Aimpoint deal.  But for a precision rifle, I like the gas piston even less in the AR/M4. 

From your list I really do like the Noveske and the SR15, but again the SR15 does have proprietary parts, but are considered to be an extremely rugged and reliable rifle, but they really are different ideas in the purpose of the rifle.  If you want a good "battle grade" AR/M4 there are more economical choices that I would opt for while not giving anything up on reliability and durability.   

From your list and statements it looks like you are looking for precision first and accuracy standard often lies within the shooters skill, ammo selection and the shooters idea of what is acceptable.  What follows is not 100% accurate to every single barrel or every single rifle as there can be variances from barrel to barrel and rifle to rifle. 

In general, pencil or the lightweight profile barrels are not as accurate once the barrel gets heated up.  There tends to be a point of impact shift and group sizes generally increase.  There are 2 schools of thought on this in that generally in a precision rifle, rate of fire tends to be slower, definitely at KKHD on the rifle side, the rate of fire will be slower if you are following the rules.  Because of the slower rate of fire the barrel will not heat as quickly.  Some people quite frankly might not be able to hold a group tight enough to notice a difference.  The other thought, is that if it did come to an up close situation where you need to "pound rounds", then you are probably close enough that the shift in precision is not going to be noticed.  The other elephant in the room is weight.  Are you going to be humping it for hours on end, or not.  If not, weight savings is a lesser consideration and I would accept small added weight for a barrel type and profile of my choice.  For myself in a precision set up in an AR/M4 pattern rifle I prefer a LW SS barrel 14.5" - 18" and 16" would be a good happy medium.  If you are wanting longer range, say past 600, the 5.56 will do it, but you should really step up in caliber.

If you are worried about proprietary, or looking for more commonality, interchangeability and availability of parts, then that greatly narrows your list and would move you in the direction of gas impingement in the AR/M4 pattern rifle.  While I am not a big fan of a gas piston in an AR/M4 pattern rifle, it is hard to ignore the LWRC / Aimpoint deal.  But for a precision rifle, I like the gas piston even less in the AR/M4. 

From your list I really do like the Noveske and the SR15, but again the SR15 does have proprietary parts, but are considered to be an extremely rugged and reliable rifle, but they really are different ideas in the purpose of the rifle.  If you want a good "battle grade" AR/M4 there are more economical choices that I would opt for while not giving anything up on reliability and durability.   

Thanks for the input.

Don't waste your money on a piston. While the top tier units use them, they also get a ridiculous amount of funding. Units just one step down didn't see the point in switching from DI because the benefits simply did not outweigh the cost. The knowledge base and aftermarket support for DI is incredible. Allowing myself to be talked out of a piston may have been the best gun decision I ever made.

That being said, I do love Noveske. They were my first AR and I regret selling it enough that I'm working on another. But for the amount you'll pay, it's very hard not to just buy a BCM. They make outstanding stuff, have the customer service to back it up, and the value is pretty damn impressive. Find an upper you like (I'm partial to the pinned 14.5 or 16 mid lengths with fully extended rails), have it shipped straight to your door, and then pay a hundred or two for a lower and go from there. Lowers are much harder to get wrong, so there are tons of options, but if it were me, I'd get the BAD lower. If you don't feel like building the lower yourself, just buy from a place like Rainier Arms and pay the $25 assembly fee.

If you're seriously considering the HK556 you mine as well go for the SCAR 17 lol. 

I've owned many different ARs from many different top tier manufacturers...
The only platform that is still in my safe(s) are the SR15s.

Find a platform that works for YOU - buy multiple and set them all up the same way.
I am always on the lookout for SR15's for sale - and pick them up when keliishane doesn't beat me to them.

Get the scar16,you will be glad you did,

I've owned many different ARs from many different top tier manufacturers...
The only platform that is still in my safe(s) are the SR15s.

Find a platform that works for YOU - buy multiple and set them all up the same way.
I am always on the lookout for SR15's for sale - and pick them up when keliishaine doesn't beat me to them.

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As for the SCAR - don't just go buy one because people say too. I hated it. With an AR you can change damn near any part to make it suit your needs. The SCAR doesn't really have that option so if you don't like it, you're kind of SOL.

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